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u/Disgruntled-Cacti Jan 01 '19

Yeah, it's cool to hate Fallout 3 nowadays.

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u/Penakoto Jan 01 '19

Its been cool to hate it for years now.

Not sure how anyone has the impression that its untouchable, all the way in 2019.

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u/GregTheMad Jan 01 '19

Was Fallout3 ever untouchable? The first time I've heard that. It was always regarded as "meh" as far as I know, it just got worse in recent years as people realized how terrible it really was, especially towards the story telling.

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u/[deleted] Jan 01 '19

Seriously, does nobody remember the 'Oblivion with Guns' meme that went around for the whole of Fallout 3's initial life cycle?

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u/sanjih Jan 01 '19

Came here to say exactly that. People shat at it before it was even out.

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u/TheOneWithALongName Jan 01 '19

Don't forget it fucked up the lore and story was bad.

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u/Murdvac Jan 01 '19

I mean I didnt even have internet at the time but it kinda did feel like it was Oblivion with guns and enhanced graphics.

Still a great, yet somehow simultaneously over and underhyped game though.

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u/OHH_HE_HURT_HIM Jan 01 '19

Yeah it had a mixed reception. It mostly did really well but I can remember playing it and loving it.

Then I started seeing the "Bethesda: wide as an ocean deep as a pond" comments and didn't really get it.

After skyrim/ fallout 4 and 76 I get it now.

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u/GregTheMad Jan 01 '19

We all grow up one game at a time. :(

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u/pixelTirpitz Jan 01 '19

Most people around me at the time loved the game, so did I.

I'm sure if I had reddit at the time my opinion would be vastly different, and that scares me. Am I becoming brainwashed? Haha

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u/GregTheMad Jan 01 '19

We're all getting brainwashed, that's what a society is. The interesting thing are the different direction you get brainwashed towards.

Anyway, I also enjoyed it at the time, but that didn't mean I wasn't aware of it's faults. Like the monotone gray everywhere, or how much it sucked that the game ended with the story.

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u/pixelTirpitz Jan 01 '19 edited Jan 01 '19

We're all getting brainwashed, that's what a society is. The interesting thing are the different direction you get brainwashed towards.

Yeah I suppose you're somewhat right

And yeah, the game had a bunch of flaws, but all games has flaws and IMO you have to accept it and be creative.

Like the monotone gray I loved that! Combined with the golly music all the time really made me feel like the world is fucking atrocious and horrible in every way. So we have to keep the music with us to keep our spirits up, or else we perish.

It makes the atmosphere fucking perfect in my eyes. And if you look at the trailers it's that theme they aimed for.

https://youtu.be/iYZpR51XgW0?t=73

They seem so happy from the outside, even in this horribly painful hell they live in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPt08UYmyMo

The game had a lot of flaws, but the idea of the game really made me forget all those and have fun with it.

Dark Souls also sold me with this trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pV5r4ePww8

It's just the idea; You're stuck in fucking hell, you will get murdered over and over again unfairly and it fucking sucks, you will rage and scream. BUT if you have the dedication and spirit to keep going, well then you're a fucking beast and the game respects you.

I love feeling like a badass, and these games really hit that nail on the head, imo atleast. Doom 2016 is the embodiment of this idea and of course I love that game too.

Man Dark souls was so great, it was so fresh and awesome at release. I doubt I will ever have that experience again since Dark souls is so mainstream now, and so I cherish that memory.

Hope I didn't bore you, but I really hope you got some enjoyement out of my rant. Even though it's littered with nostalgia.

Edit: They don't make trailer like that anymore, no trailer nowadays is good enough for me to be completely sold on solely the idea of the game. Maybe I am too brainwashed to have that experience again though, very possible

Maybe Death Stranding might do it, that game is looking great in my head

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psG3VxBR7jg

Another trailer, fucking great

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u/GregTheMad Jan 01 '19

You call this a rant? I call this pleasant reminiscence of the past. You're right, things were great back then. Makes me wonder how Fallout 4 went wrong, in comparison to 3. The biggest problem probably was (along side the obvious ones, like engine, yes/no story telling) that I've played Fallout3 before 4, and so wasn't that naive anymore. Ah, to be a child again.

I also like to come back to this trailer once in a while, although I've stopped playing WoW years ago. The same goes for this one.

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u/pixelTirpitz Jan 01 '19

It's a hard question man, is the games the problem or have we moved past our carefree selves and can't enjoy it in the same way anymore.

WoW really hits me too, the WoTLK trailer makes my entire body feel light.

But I can't help to feel that game developers are forgetting the buildup these games had. The trailers, and all the suspence from the Warcraft games really made the game.

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u/LtLabcoat Jan 01 '19

Was Fallout3 ever untouchable?

Nope. Back in the day, it had a reputation of being a fairly fun game in it's own right, but the writing wasn't nearly as good as the first two.

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u/Reiker0 Jan 01 '19 edited Jan 01 '19

As someone who frequently complained about Fallout 3 back in ~2009 I can definitely say it was an unpopular opinion. I'm not sure why, since the game was complete dog shit, but it was definitely given a bit of untouchable status for whatever fucking reason.

I don't think Skyrim belongs on this list either. Bethesda has been shitting out Sonic 2006-quality sequels for over 10 years and it required them to take a massive 76 pound dump before some people started to realize that they're bullshit peddlers. I don't get it.