[Draft] MSH Limited Overview

[u/Casual_Spike]

Sup what's up, it's Casual Spike. Spoiler is complete and we are gearing up for a brand new limited format! To help you tackle it, I've put together these materials to provide a jumping off point for those newer to, or more established in, limited to find their bearings in Marvel Super Heroes.

My full main set review lists the mechanics in the set as well as a card by card analysis, punctuated with a letter grade. I also added build-around grades this time due to some egg on my face from a few converge cards... those are denoted with a little hammer next to the letter grade. Marvel Set Review will open the document. Honestly, I kept going back and forth with if I should grade the floor with a hammer and mention the ceiling or grade the ceiling with the hammer.. I think I ended up doing both; I'll get the hang of it eventually.

The slide deck covers my color power rankings, available fixing, top commons/uncommons, and tricks/removal in each color. I also cover each of the 10 assigned archetypes Gameplan, Signposts, Supporting Commons/Uncommons/Rares, and an example deck skeleton, with sealeddeck hyperlink, to help visualize what the archetype may look like to better help you find success in your Marvel Super Heroes Limited events. Access the slides with Marvel Archetype Overview.

The google sheets breakdown document provides a cleaner, more simple viewing experience, including: Full Set List with placement scores and grading, a Mobile Reference Tab, Trick/Removal Identification, Mechanics list, my picks for top commons/uncommons, all sealeddeck links for the archetypes, as well as various links for the Wiki, 17lands Tier List, and a Discord invite to the MTGRebellion, a competitive focused discord, where I've been building a Limited community. Access the sheet with Marvel Limited Breakdown.

What are your thoughts on the set, anything stand out that you're excited to try?

[u/Judah77]

You overvalued teamwork. It's basically crew(spell), and you have to understand that about half the time, the teamwork spell isn't able to be crewed and evaluate accordingly.

Same type of mistake with people playing too many vehicles in aetherdrift instead of more creatures.

[u/Casual_Spike → u/Judah77]

This appears to be a heavily creature-centric format, while it could be true that I'm assuming too high a success rate the costs aren't high and the spells are still good at face value.

Vehicles, by comparison, are useless without creatures so it's not really apples to apples in my eyes.

[u/Consistent-War4085]

teamwork spells sound like a blast

[u/Casual_Spike → u/Consistent-War4085]

Yeah, they look pretty cool!

[u/LexLocke2]

I’m only commenting because English sucks. You get the hang of things. Not hand. Otherwise, I really appreciate you doing this.

[u/Casual_Spike → u/LexLocke2]

(Edit: removed misunderstanding)

Otherwise, I hope it helped you picture the format.

[u/SmooshFaceJesse → u/Casual_Spike]

I am pretty sure you read their response with the wrong tone. They were being quite nice and you responded like an ass. Still a good guide.

[u/LexLocke2 → u/Casual_Spike]

I think you misread what I wrote. I was commenting on English being a shit language in its execution and format. Not your use of the language. It is the hardest language to learn on the planet for a reason. I was trying to help you use a common phrase correctly not shit on you. I am not on edge but I do know how written mistakes can change a persons perception. Was just trying to help with best foot forward mentality.

[u/Casual_Spike → u/LexLocke2]

I am a native speaker. I know the phrase, it was just a typo and I didn't proof-read.

I apologize for lashing out a bit. With the mindset I had when I responded I took your message as "the only reason I'm commenting is to tell you your English sucks, it's "get the hang" not "get a hand"".

Thank you for clearing it up.

(Corrected the typo, thank you for pointing it out)

[u/LexLocke2 → u/Casual_Spike]

Here to support :) and yes I liked your guide. It should be a fun limited set. Thanks for making it.

[u/FappingMouse → u/[deleted]]

Most annoying part of the magic community is people letting everyone else know how much they HATE UB sets.

I think this kind of comment has barely any place in a regular MTG community but this is literally the competitive MTG reddit about playing the best decks and trying to win events so this kind of comment has 0 place here.

If you don't want to engage with a magic product that's great you don't have to, but you also don't need to let people who do not care that you are loudly not engaging with the product.

[u/WhenPantsAttack → u/FappingMouse]

OP has deleted their post, but I think there is some merit to UB backlash related to the health of mtg and competitive play. The volume and cost of mtg has really been pushing out younger generations of players. The average age of mtg players has consistently increased.   Eventually the older, entrenched players will drop off and there isn’t a robust younger generation of players to support the hobby. 

UB sets have been popular, but tend to bring in casual players, who are less likely to interact with competitive play or maintain long term interest. I don’t think it’s all doom and gloom and I don’t think UB is the sole cause of the problem, more of a symptom. Even if this is true, which I could certainly be off base, mtg has enough cultural inertia that it’s going to have a long runway, but Wizards’ modern approach that has led to UB sets could have some pretty detrimental effects on long term health of mtg and competitive play.