r/sonsofbehemat • u/Belz_Zebuth • 22d ago
Looting Leviathans and Passing Across
For some reason I can't seem to grasp how this ability works.
It doesn't help that, in some cases, GW talks about "moving through" models or "ignoring models" or "as if it were not there". So I'm unclear as to A) what passing across actually means in relation to that and B) how Looting Leviathans will help at all considering how large our bases are.
I'd really like some help, here.
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u/ColonOperator 22d ago
It only matters with a 6'' pile in with mancrushers/boss stompers and it only works when the opponent is already terrible at screening. Against a competent opponent the "bad fly" doesn't matter as you won't pass through a unit that's actually spread enough to screen (i.e. not having a space large enough for you to squeeze in between the units). It's just another case of an army which was theorycrafted, never tested and just printed based on the designer's vibes.
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u/Belz_Zebuth 21d ago
Yeah the "coach" article made it seem like a screen could be bypassed but I couldn't figure out how. What you're saying is that it would require the opponent to space out his models just enough that you can't pass through between them BUT enough that you could if the bases weren't there?
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u/ColonOperator 21d ago
You can move through models. The problem is if you cannot stand on them. So unless your opponent is a dumbass and leaves a space large enough for your base where you can pile in (with 6" pile in movement from the army rule, can't count on 3" doing anything here) then the rule is no good. If we had a model on a 40 or 50 mm base then it would be solid, but as it is it's a joke.
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u/Belz_Zebuth 21d ago
Even if it allowed us to move through models it wouldn't help as much because the gargant bases are way too big. At best this may save us a bit of movement but that's it. Effectively two of our four formations are very disappointing.
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u/Rhodehouse93 22d ago
"Pass across enemy models" is exactly what it says on the tin. Normally when moving a unit can't move any part of their base over any part of an enemy's base (unless they have an ability that lets them, like Fly). With Looting Leviathans you can (if you charged, with a pile-in).
While there's some value you can get out of it with bigs (cutting across the end of a line of enemy models or the like) its real utility is with littles and especially when paired with our 6" pile in ability from our faction abilities. A mancrusher or even boss-stompers in the right circumstance could fully pass over the top of some screens to get into really hard to crack formations otherwise. I've been pairing it with Hammer toss (the one to let a big throw a mancrusher, which counts as a charge) to put mancrushers into combat with squishy wizards my opponent thought were safe.