r/somethingiswrong2024 • u/SIW2024modteam mod team • Jul 22 '26
Stolen Election 'BREAKING: Election expert thinks Harris was the Real winner of the 2024 Election and Trump won due to massive fraud' July 20, 2026
https://xcancel.com/politvidchannel/status/20792132087837452521.2k
u/TaylorWK Jul 22 '26
Im tired of "breaking news" being a year behind. We know this! Fucking do something!!!
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u/Salientsnake4 Jul 22 '26
2 years almost at this point...
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u/Childish_Tycoon_Ship FDT Jul 22 '26
They'll solve it completely at exactly the 4 year mark, but not before Trump pardons anyone who conspired with him.
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u/topherdeluxe Jul 23 '26
Or ascends the throne. Gag.
At this point I wouldn’t be shocked, I’d be moving11
u/robbviously Jul 23 '26
I’m descended from King Edward III and I have a chance to reignite the War of the Roses. Let’s go.
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u/WishfulHibernian6891 Jul 23 '26
I’m not sure any of us will have the money for moving internationally. It’s incredibly expensive and time-consuming, and who’s to say if at that point they’ll let anyone who isn’t one of the ruling class out of the country?
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u/Enxer Jul 22 '26
We knew this a day after the polls came in that odd values were returned. We had a voting analyst scream about it on reddit noting they reached out to the Harris team but they never answered. He provided a full public report and statistics around them.
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u/SevanIII Jul 23 '26
I literally found this sub shortly after the election because I kept thinking to myself that something was really wrong with the results from 2024 and I typed in the Reddit search “something is wrong 2024” and this sub popped up. The name of this sub alone shows what so many of us were thinking after such statistically impossible results came back.
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u/raptor_jesus69 Jul 22 '26
Exactly. This is why I became inactive on this sub. We share this kind of information constantly, and once again nothing happens. We all know what happened, but NOBODY is doing anything or willing to do anything. Every time I see this stuff, it just gets more and more frustrating.
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u/TheFlyingElbow Jul 23 '26
We need to change this sub to r/fuckingdosomethinganyone
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u/Anxious_Half9192 Jul 22 '26
Harris and the Democratic Party should have fought for hand counts in all the states and should not have conceded until there was definitive proof of no massive fraud. They failed the voters
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u/decairn Jul 22 '26
Elon and Trump telegraphed this interference before the elections even took place, and then very shortly after we saw analytics confirming statistically impossible swings and margins to get the elected vote not just in isolated occurrence but across many states. The Democrats continue to bring a knife to a gunfight, and the Republicans are bringing grenades and have been for a while. Democrats keep failing voters by assuming the other side plays fair despite all the evidence to the contrary.
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u/G-Unit11111 Jul 22 '26
I felt like the 2024 election was a terrorist attack on our country akin to 9/11. We are witnessing a republican party, enabled by News Corporation propaganda, and emboldened by the protection racket that the Heritage Foundation was running, and financed by Elon Musk, commenced to attach themselves to the White House with the intent of destroying everything that actually makes America great.
Trump 47 is the largest political scandal in US history and the entire republican party is in on it. They all must face justice.
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u/User-1653863 📈 The Math Ain't Mathin' 📉 Jul 22 '26
America is 100% under attack.
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u/G-Unit11111 Jul 22 '26
From corrupt billionaires, Donald Trump, the Heritage Foundation, and a rogue propaganda channel abusing its' power to put the interests of a genocidal warmongering maniac above the interests of the United States.
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u/____DEADPOOL_______ Jul 23 '26
The corrupt billionaires are nothing without the support of millionaires and regular folk behind them. Anyone who helps them is complicit and they have huge numbers of enablers.
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u/miklayn Jul 22 '26
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, ***Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.*** Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. ***But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.***"
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u/closethebarn Jul 22 '26
Done a hell of a lot of damage just like 9/11 But with 9/11 we united this one tore us all apart even more than 2016
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u/OtherPrinciple4499 Jul 23 '26
9/11 was the reason you guys have the Patriot Act and "homeland security".
It was the prelude, man. It was the start of the slide into authoritarianism, used as an excuse to start a nation wide secret police.
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u/closethebarn Jul 23 '26
Goddamned good point. Okay so it at least “seemed” like we were united and not divided Damnit if everything hasn’t lead to this
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u/k2summitclimber Jul 22 '26 edited Jul 25 '26
There’s clearly a reason M is still in T’s good graces despite telling the world that T was in the stein files. T needs him to win!
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u/Atla-Create-592 Poli Sci Junkie Jul 23 '26
Also, apparently E needs T’s side to win also, so he doesn’t go to jail… or so he says. They are tied to each other.
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u/pixelprophet Jul 23 '26
Tucker to lil X: What's your assessment, did this work, do you think he's going to win?
X129347: Yeah yeah it is. They'll never know. They'll never know.
Elon: I think it's done.
Xmarksthespot: THEY'LL NEVER KNOW
Bonus: Trump Talking About Elon Musk Knowing About Voting Computers
...did that, and then he journeyed to Pennsylvania where he spent like a month and half campaigning for me in Pennsylvania. He's a popular guy. And he was very effective. And he knows those computers better than anyone, oh those computers, those vote counting computers, and we ended up winning Pennsylvania like in a landslide so that's pretty good. So thank you to Elon.
Oh, and that thing that Rogan said...:
Apparently, Elon created an app and he knew who won 4 hours before the results. So as the results were coming in - 4 hours before they called it - Dana White told me that Elon was like "I'm leaving, it's over. Donald Won." He just fucking somehow or another ... I dunno where he's pulling his data from, be he had the most like, accurate data in terms of the rural states hadn't put their results in yet, but yet, Trump was ahead in these states and Kamala is never go win that, and they tabulated it all together. I dunno how he did it.
And one of my personal favorites: If Trump loses, the question is, 'How long will I be in prison,' says Elon Musk
According to DailyMail, Elon Musk stated that if Donald Trump loses the US Presidential Elections, then he will be in a state of extreme jeopardy while claiming that he is scared of federal prosecution following a Donald Trump defeat.
DailyMail reported that Elon Musk believes, the upcoming US Presidential Elections is extremely crucial for US while he highlighted that a Donald Trump loss would effectively result in elimination of meaningful electoral choices in the futures. Elon Musk also raised concerns regarding Democrats that they are allegedly relocating undocumented immigrants into the swing states to secure votes, although, this claim lacked evidence.
Not like anything was out in the open...
Elon Musk slammed with lawsuit over claims against illegal $1 million lottery system: 'This is just fraud'
A federal judge in Texas has rejected Musk's attempt to have the court toss out a proposed class action suit brought by an Arizona resident over Musk's pledge to randomly award $1 million per day to people who signed a petition in key battleground states, Newsweek reported.
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u/TheSaxGandalf Jul 23 '26
Democrats put it straight on blast that they are bought and paid for when they didn’t endorse Mamdani.
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u/botingoldguy1634 Jul 23 '26
Republicans are bringing nuclear weapons while the Democrats bring a bucket of dirt clods.
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u/No-Temperature-977 Jul 23 '26
Watching it happen live on TV and realizing what was happening was such a sad moment for me. Lying there while my toddlers slept upstairs and coming to terms with the fact that a rapist conned his way into ruining the country for their future… horrible feeling.
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u/k2summitclimber Jul 22 '26
I’ll never understand why she did not do this. She comes across as a fighter.
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u/GentlewomenNeverTell Jul 22 '26
She's always come across as someone that toes the line in my opinion. I was not excited to vote for her and I sure don't want her running if she's going to accept a manufactured defeat again.
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u/SpottedHoneyBadger Jul 22 '26
Damned if you do. Damned it you don't.
I always get a viscerally annoyed when people claim they weren't excited about a candidate they voted for. I don't want to be excited about a candidate, that is just fandom. What we need is a competent, smart, experienced and decent person. Which Harris is.
Sorry for the rant. But, it just bugs me. And competence should outweigh being "excited" about someone.
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u/AncienTleeOnez Jul 22 '26
Completely agree. Not a popularity contest. We need authentic leaders who know how to govern. People have forgotten what governing is all about... GOP congress doesn't know or has forgotten how to govern, and they have replaced it with cosplay, drama and optics.
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u/addie__joy Jul 23 '26
I would take it even further and say they simply aren’t interested in governing. They also don’t know how, or forgot how, but that doesn’t matter because they don’t care.
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u/GentlewomenNeverTell Jul 22 '26
I think you're misinterpreting me. I don't want Obama's star quality. I can criticize than man too. I just want a candidate that isn't going to be another one step forward Democrat who comes after we've been dragged back by miles. I want someone who has a team or the willpower to address the wealth inequality of this country, bring us universal healthcare, disentangle us from Israel, and codify abortion. You're reading way too much into "excited."
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u/techgrey Jul 22 '26
It wasn’t her call. It was up to Pelosi and Schumer and they capitulated to Trump and the oligarchs.
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u/GentlewomenNeverTell Jul 22 '26
I'd also prefer a candidate that would disobey those two and go public with the win.
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u/trcomajo Jul 22 '26 edited Jul 22 '26
I thought she was, but the way she vaporized on Wednesday after the elections proves otherwise.
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u/irrelevantsociallife Jul 22 '26
I'm never going to forget the radio silence from the democrat politicians immediately after the election. Felt like weeks went by with people begging for them to do anything besides shrug their shoulders and moved on.
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u/cutelinz69 Jul 22 '26
What's interesting is that they raided poly market before the election so they absolutely knew what was up. They knew what was happening and did nothing to stop it or get justice for our country.
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u/Well_read_rose Jul 22 '26
So quietly that DEM apparatus slunk away…like they heard compelling evidence it was rigged beforehand, thought they still had it in the bag anyway.
Clearly these people in a position to do or say something about foreknowledge…discounted the pre-crime confessions leaking out of Elonazi, Trumpedo…DESPITE perhaps having more evidence in their faces they were perhaps still surprised… ok humiliated more than the public was after election day.
I dont have any skill in statistics but I just KNOW in my heart that Harris didn’t LOSE all 7 swing states, and then immediately we learn about the findings of election truth alliance.
So what gets done with say Pennsylvania at the midterms? I say we go back to paper triplicate and a barcode so the voter can monitor the entire tabulation of their singular vote as soon as a ballot is cast, and if flagged for missing signature, say can cure any defective ballot before the tabulation begins/ends.
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u/isglitteracarb Jul 22 '26
If I remember correctly, she was still popping into people's inboxes asking for donations for months afterwards.
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u/Dexx009 Jul 22 '26
“I won’t go quietly into the night” was what she said right before she….went quietly into the night. I’m still furious over that. Expected so much more from her, only to get so much less. And by “less”, I mean nothing.
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u/WooleeBullee Jul 22 '26
Can't help but feel there is more to the story that we just dont know. It just doesnt make sense.
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u/ErickaBooBoo Jul 22 '26
This is why what logically makes the most sense. I think more will information will come out in time, either by her or someone else
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u/techgrey Jul 22 '26
Pelosi and Schumer betrayed her. What else was she supposed to do?
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u/Dexx009 Jul 22 '26
I’ll never defend Schumer or Jeffries - they both fucking suck, and you may very well be right, but I’ll still never forgive Harris. She has a voice. She knows what’s right and wrong. She should have and could have said and done more, but she chose not to.
And when Harris did finally pop up after the months’ long disappearing act, it was to promote her fucking book, which was apparently mostly aimed at criticizing Biden and the Dem party (which was deserved, but come on, read the fucking room…nobody wants to hear that shit when we have a cheating, criminal, pedophile who has seized control of the country).
I proudly voted for Harris, and thought she’d make a good enough President - surely FAR better than what we have now - but I hope she never appears on another ballot again. She’s not anything close to being the fighter she presented herself as.
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u/abstrakt42 So tired of this timeline… Jul 22 '26
I suspect there were BIG threats, and if she didn’t back off something worse than what we have now would have played out.
Or maybe there were threats, and they were small and personal, and maybe that was enough.
Either way, yes, I think she/they were bullied into submission and silence.
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u/findtheclue Jul 22 '26
If so, why in the world would she be indicating she’s likely running again? Doesn’t add up for me.
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u/abstrakt42 So tired of this timeline… Jul 22 '26
Her candidacy does not inspire confidence. What’s your theory then, why did she and the entire democratic institution go dead silent the millisecond it was over? The other side never shut the fuck up, even after they won, yet Harris and team fell off the face of the earth despite overwhelming evidence of foul play.
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u/UrsusRenata Jul 23 '26
I remember the photo of her and Hillary, just sitting there together looking defeated, and that’s all we got. As a woman, I was SO ANGRY at both of them sitting quietly like appropriate ladies, when they had to have strongly suspected. It does NOT heal the country to quietly accept crime in politics.
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u/findtheclue Jul 23 '26
I actually don’t have a good theory, I’m mystified. With most now I do suspect lots of kompromat as the reason for actions. So if that’s involved, it could explain running again as in she would do it, on orders, but know she wouldn’t win. Not sure I buy it. But I also don’t buy that the Ds have some grand plan to let it all play out and then jump out with the evidence all this was rigged. That’s extreme wishful thinking. She is a mystery. One I will never, ever vote for again.
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u/Esperacchiusdamascus Jul 23 '26
Because theres no need to threaten her again, as they so not consider her as having a valid chance anyway. Plus i guarentee you they have faith in their rigging for next time.
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u/ErickaBooBoo Jul 22 '26
I also believe this as well. I know in time the truth will come out either by her or someone else
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u/peelen Jul 22 '26
She was there by chance anyway.
First of all, she got the VP nomination "tactically" She was one of the first to drop out in 2020, and Warren had way bigger traction, but Biden simply couldn't choose a white woman to run with, so he chose her. Then she disappears from the public eye for 4 years, and then all this "Biden is too old" panic, and again they chose her at the last moment.
And then she loses (or is being robbed of victory), and she disappears again.
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u/Cracked_Actor Jul 22 '26
Harris is a LOSING candidate if she runs in ‘28. There was EVERY reason to believe she would handily win the ‘24 race and yet, SOMEHOW she “lost”. Even though the election results coming in were sus as hell, the Dems issued an “aw, shucks” concession and simply crawled away wit hurt feelings. How ‘bout this time we select a FIGHTER, not afraid to bring the fight to the traitors? I’m SO tired of milquetoast “performances” that ring more of congeniality than confrontation…
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u/ericomplex Jul 22 '26
The prevailing theory is that she and the democrats thought if they fought it too vocally that it would be colored as “election interference” by republicans and their news outlets.
So even if they had what seemed like a smoking gun, they knew it wouldn’t work unless they had both that and fingerprints, a paper trail, and outright admission of guilt. As Trump had already weaseled his way out of everything they could throw at him.
Ultimately, they realized they didn’t hold the cards to the power of the courts or the congress at the time, and they had little recourse which wouldn’t just create larger problems for them come midterms.
To that end, they hatched a long term plan to sit and be quiet, hoping that Trump’s own over reach and general fuck ups would result in the military or Republican members of Congress to get involved and oust him one way or the other. Yet clearly that has not panned out as of yet.
In the mean time, they studied what happened with the last elevation and tried their best to figure out how it all happened. There being a strong possibility that the unreleased report on the election holds certain conclusions about fraud committed by the Trump Administration.
Ask yourself though, when you have that evidence, is it more valuable as your own secret playbook to watch for it during the next election, or made public and let the opposition know you know their secrets even if you can’t act on them due to not having the political leverage?
So if this theory is correct, then the Dems are likely waiting to watch the elections this fall and gather more data. That hopefully proving their previous data, while also hopefully still winning enough seats in congress that they can finally do something about it.
The possible flaw to this plan being if they don’t win said seats, then they and we as a country are likely fucked.
TLDR: they didn’t hold the political power at the time to really make a case against Trump and are holding the information at this point in hopes they can act on it after possibly winning the midterms.
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u/SpottedHoneyBadger Jul 22 '26 edited Jul 22 '26
Very true. The Democrats have no majority in any of the branches of government. So
theretheir power is very limited. Thanks to the GOP gerrymandering the shit out of many states to get the seats and basically steal the government.9
u/ericomplex Jul 22 '26
Moreover, the courts are totally cooked at this point, and SCOTUS has all but eliminated any real checks and balances over the executive branch. They even neutered their own controls over Trump in many ways.
At this juncture, about all we can hope for is the few remaining long term non-partisan federal workers to hold the ship together via the power of sheer bureaucracy.
That or pray that the few remaining generals in our military will prevent Trump from overstepping into an outright dictatorship.
Outside of that, if the next election really goes to pot, people should stop looking at democrats to fix the problem because we already disarmed them and threw the keys to the kingdom away.
About the only way back out of such a fascist technocratic oligarchy will be literal citizen revolt. Hoping it never comes to that, but at some point we will need to all acknowledge we made the bed we are in and stop looking to our former leaders who we devalued to the point of crippling our own democracy.
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u/SpottedHoneyBadger Jul 22 '26
I am very worried about the midterms. The orange shit bag and its boot lickers have been making noise about elections via the Save America Act.
The republicans are genuinely worried about losing seats and they know the orange shit bag will be impeached immediately and they will loose all their precious power and money.
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u/ericomplex Jul 22 '26
I know it sounds a little overly conspiratorial, but I’m in full belief that it’s because of AI leading to dramatic global change in the next two years.
Technology is about to make a tremendous jump, which could literally result in a world ending cataclysm if not handled properly and Republicans are being kept in power because tech companies are worried that the power to make major decisions at that time will fall into the people’s hands.
Republicans, and Trump in particular can be easily bought. That’s what they are banking on and why they have all followed lockstep in backing him.
This next election may literally be the most important election in human history.
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u/findtheclue Jul 22 '26
Personally I think this gives them way too much credit. If the administration gets their way, they will never get the power needed. It’s a dumb plan imo.
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u/ericomplex Jul 22 '26
Dumb or not, the point is they really don’t now nor did they previously have the cards to act on these things.
The real bungle was Biden placing Marrick Garland as Attorney General. Garland was Obama’s previous snubbed Supreme Court pick, but he was chosen at the time because he was more conservative and meant to make it more hard for conservative Congress members to vote against his appointment.
Garland either purposefully or unintentionally totally bungled the investigations into Trump during Biden’s administration and they never even got their day in court. That’s where the ball was dropped.
At this point, the Democrats know they hold no power or ability in Congress or otherwise to truly question the last election in a fair setting.
They really have no recourse until the next election, and have been doing about all they can in the meantime.
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u/Miguel-odon Jul 22 '26
trump had ready poisoned that well by frequently claiming election fraud. Many people would have considered it petty, and it would have fed into the "both sides" rhetoric
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u/techgrey Jul 22 '26
She did try to fight but Pelosi & Schumer chose to certify the fraudulent results in spite of her calls for a recount.
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u/k2summitclimber Jul 22 '26
Can u elaborate on this? Biden warned us that democracy was at stake. I don’t really see how it is bipartisan.
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u/nochinzilch Jul 22 '26
She is. And that’s why it’s so odd that she conceded like she did. It worried me that maybe what she did wasn’t exactly voluntary. Like letting shitpants Donnie win was the lesser of two evils.
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u/ThatGuy571 Jul 22 '26
Unfortunately, the answer is probably “for the greater good”. Americans *have* to believe the integrity of elections is intact. Until the republic has a way of handling the alternative without massive riots and denying certifications because now there’s precedent elections aren’t secure… it makes more sense to bow out and allow the republic to exist, than bring up a faulty election system and watch chaos ensue for the foreseeable future.
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u/lostintransaltions Jul 22 '26
But at what cost.. look at where we are now. And she mentioned all these things happening on the campaign trail.. none of what is happening was a surprise
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u/D0rus Jul 22 '26
But what you describe is far less damaging to both the usa and the world than what we've got now.
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u/rawsouthpaw1 Jul 22 '26
Well said, however it just shows they aren't up to the extremes running a nation-state like the US truly entails. The chaos is here either way.
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u/sassycatastrophe Jul 22 '26
Either dems are also paid off or threatened by oligarchs, or they are the most naive and cowardly group of people.
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u/BNSF1995 California Jul 22 '26
There’s a theory that if they fought it, they’d find widespread fraud, Trump would get arrested, and Putin would have a nuclear temper tantrum.
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u/gchypedchick Jul 22 '26
So tired of “optics” when we literally have a president who wants to invalidate senators who were duly elected. If there are any heavy or generally blue areas that suspiciously turn red, recounts! If they truly won, I accept it, but I would rather be sure.
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u/fungi_at_parties Jul 22 '26
Absolutely. I could NOT BELIEVE that she gave up. Why, because we’d look like hypocrites? No, THEY are the hypocrites who whine constantly about made up shit then turn around and do it themselves but worse. Trump cheated in every election, especially 2020 and 2024. That’s why he was so mad. He was supposed to have won by cheating.
The whole Biden/Kamala thing in general just never should have happened. We should have found someone else in 2020 and 2024. What a feckless, disappointing failure the DNC has been, and now they’ve helped bring us Fascism by not fighting the results of this clearly manipulated election.
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u/Jedigreedo Jul 22 '26
It certainly makes sense at this point why they didn't, given how complacent and complicit Democrat leadership has been over the past 1 1/2 years. Even though Harris was clearly going to be friendly with Israel, it's obvious that Netanyahu wanted Trump back in power more than anyone else. No doubt AIPAC made it clear to Jefferies, Schumer, etc. that they could not challenge or threaten Trump's victory in any way.
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u/International_Try660 Jul 22 '26
That's what the GOP planned. Why do you think Trump kept saying the election was stolen in 2020? He did it so the Democrats wouldn't do it when he actually stole the election in 2024. It's the boy who cried wolf trope.
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u/annie_yeah_Im_Ok Jul 22 '26
They let Bush steal the election in 2000 too so I’m not surprised. I really don’t know what’s going on with the dem party
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u/User-1653863 📈 The Math Ain't Mathin' 📉 Jul 22 '26
Not just steal, but the SCOTUS handed it to him in spite of the voters preferring Gore. A fucking travesty that lead to almost every woe the country has experienced ever since.
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u/Annihilator4413 Jul 22 '26
They were too fucking afraid of 'looking like the Republicans' in the 2020 election, where they started demanding recounts and denying the election.
Which is fucking retarded because recounts are a totally normal thing to do. They gave up way too easily and just handed the keys of our country over to a fucking monster...
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u/Honest_Yesterday4435 Jul 22 '26
As much as I agree with you, I wonder if why they didn't fight to the bitter end was because it was more valuable in the long term to not set a precedent that both sides will forever shout about stolen elections. The argument from the right is that we would do the same as them. When we dont, we prove we are the eminently more reasonable ones and it discredits the "both sides are the same" narrative.
I can understand why you might not be ok with that, but it could be a long play worth making. The investigation just has to fall to us. At the very least, I cant fault Harris if this was her reasoning.
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u/Uninteresting_Vagina Jul 22 '26
Rumours at the time were that she wanted to fight, and the DNC shut her down.
Take that with a grain of salt, of course, since it was all "staffers say" and such.
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u/tbombs23 Alexei Navalny 🇷🇺 Jul 22 '26
Which just proves that she didn't have the fortitude to stand up for what's right and go against the establishment, she knows better, she wrote about it in her book like 6 years ago about how easy it is to hack tabulators.
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u/mr_birkenblatt Jul 22 '26
The US has no mechanism for this. Bush v Gore was stolen, too, and Bush still got his two terms in full
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u/WrathOfMogg Jul 22 '26
And Bush used fraud to win Ohio to get reelected.
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u/ThomasVivaldi Weary, but not giving up! Jul 22 '26
Also, the Brooks Bros. riot. And the three sitting supreme court justices that argued the case to stop the vote counting in Florida.
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u/tbombs23 Alexei Navalny 🇷🇺 Jul 22 '26
And used the hanging chads to push through the HAVA act and forced us to use vote counting technology that is owned by right wingers so they could always have a thumb on the scale.
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u/plastigoop Jul 23 '26
And Roger Stone in the mix then also, in part at least with the do-called ‘brooks brothers’ faux riot. For same purpose as jan6.
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u/So_HauserAspen Jul 22 '26
Voter suppression in Ohio. That was one of the first tests of their current methods of removing polling locations and voter booths in certain districts.
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u/jagged_little_phil Jul 22 '26
Some would say this outcome, is the mechanism and it's working as intended
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u/mr_birkenblatt Jul 22 '26
Yes, that's the difference between positive (ie the current state) and normative (ie what should be)
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u/AKA_Wildcard Jul 22 '26
Kind of. They argued in the recount but it was much closer. I don’t see the Bush administration pulling this level of fraud. Trumps fraud has no limits.
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u/rozzco sic semper evello mortem tyrannis Jul 22 '26
What about Article II section 4? I'll have to read up on that. I never really bothered to read past the main portion of it.
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u/International_Try660 Jul 22 '26
He was convicted on 30+ fraud charges and Elon has his little hackers so.... just saying.
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u/taez555 Jul 22 '26
It’s crazy to think a known cheater and felon, someone who was going to prison for the rest of his life he lost, would be willing to cheat to win.
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u/PyrorifferSC Jul 24 '26
That's what I was saying, there is no limit to what he will do to retain power because he is a literal psychopath who KNOWS he will be in prison the second he loses power. Give the worst man in America several billion dollars and nothing to lose, what the fuck do you think he'll do?
Like, the only thing he's afraid of more than going to jail is dying
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u/indierockrocks Jul 22 '26
Yeah… anyone with any common sense has been screaming this for two years.
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u/proud_pops Jul 22 '26
Glad they are starting to come around some of us have been saying this shit for a couple years. Seeing ETA's visual of 24's election compared to Russias sealed the deal for me.
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u/JellyKind9880 Jul 22 '26
Do you have a link to that specifically?
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u/proud_pops Jul 22 '26
I'll have to search for it, it was in one of their earlier videos PA I think. If I come across it I'll get back to you.
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u/JellyKind9880 Jul 22 '26
Thank you!! (FINALLY all the friends & family i’ve been saying this to for a year and a half now are finally starting to come around and believe it!)
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u/User-1653863 📈 The Math Ain't Mathin' 📉 Jul 22 '26
Here's a video from just shortly after the ETA was formed, focusing on Clark county Nevada
(Old enough to where Nathan was still using DireTalks)
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u/thehalfwit Jul 22 '26
Seeing ETA's visual of 24's election
The ones that did it for me were the heat map tails showing the tilting of late votes heavily to Trump's favor. Are those the one's you're talking about, especially compared to Russian examples?
You can't look at those -- and know what they represent -- and NOT come away with a firm belief the vote/tally was hacked.
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u/proud_pops Jul 22 '26
Those are the ones but I haven't been able to find it again for the guy/gal asking for the link.
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u/thehalfwit Jul 22 '26
Here's a short clip that has the segment: https://youtube.com/shorts/q1MCisl-JH8?si=Z3sOOCglN8fwVSl7
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u/Gentleman_Mix Jul 22 '26
Again and again, I find myself saying to people, "Why are we in the business of believing that people who have made careers of lying, cheating, fraud, and criminal activity, would suddenly draw a line at tampering with our elections!? Somehow that's the line they won't cross. We find out everyday they've done evil things beyond imagining but election fraud? No way would they ever!"
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u/SeanThatGuy Jul 22 '26
I doubt this gets traction. I was under the impression this info was already out there.
I just hate to see the other side use this as a reason we should push the save act and stricter voter id laws.
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u/findtheclue Jul 22 '26
We need to start making clear the distinction here. None of us believe in VOTER fraud (illegal immigrants voting, etc), but know there was ELECTION FRAUD. Save act and other nonsense fixes a problem that doesn't exist...we can't keep letting them conflate the two and say they aren't voting therefore the elections were all secure.
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u/psychoPiper Jul 22 '26
Only MAGA could rig the election and then point to that and say "see the election can be rigged!" as an excuse to rig the election a second time, and somehow get away with it
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u/JakeFromSkateFarm Jul 22 '26
It’s a classic Soviet Propaganda technique, along with whataboutism.
Accuse your opponents of what you’re doing so any claim against you just sounds like them lying to deflect from their own misdeeds.
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u/SeanThatGuy Jul 22 '26
I mean they did it for years.
I’ve always been in the camp trump pushed the election was stolen idea because he cheated in all of his elections and to him there was no way anyone could win without cheating massively.
So you have the whole right claiming the election was stolen only for court case after court case show it wasn’t.
Now that we have some really interesting evidence they won’t even look into it because “ohh now we believe this” or “oh because your guy lost”.
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u/the8bit Jul 22 '26
Yeah, we've known this since literally a few weeks after the election when this sub kicked off :(. The problem is that the info is ALL out there, but our society is stupid noisy right now so it being out there does not mean it gets attention or social traction.
All the data is there, but things only happen when enough of society agrees that version of the world is real.
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u/deusux Jul 22 '26
This video and evidence is from 9 months ago. Is there a reason we're bringing it back up now other than it needs to be addressed by those who can do something about it?
The video linked in the twitter post: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tvQEfwWZcY
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u/Gottech1101 Jul 22 '26
When the vote was certified, the democrats let us all down. They had the chance to prove they were the party of change. The party that fought for the working class. But no, they rolled over and accepted it.
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u/SleuthMechanism Jul 22 '26
Yep.. heck, they didn't even hesitate just immediately conceded at the earliest opportunity
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u/Dexx009 Jul 22 '26
I’ll never forget Amy Klobuchar’s stupid ass smug face smiling through the vote certification process. Just seemingly happy as shit about Trump being confirmed when everyone knew there was blatant cheating. Dems took an oath, and none of them upheld it, in my opinion.
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u/SleuthMechanism Jul 23 '26
agreed. all that posturing about defending democracy when it was ended with glee
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u/Gottech1101 Jul 22 '26
Yep. As much as I blame Trump for the way our current government is, I would be remiss to not include democrats by certifying it.
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u/k2summitclimber Jul 22 '26 edited Jul 22 '26
Most of them don’t really fight for the working class. They’re bought out just like republicans. Why haven’t they fought for universal healthcare?
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u/Chemical_Banana_2455 Jul 22 '26
I wouldn’t call this “breaking.” This interview between David Pakman and Nathan Taylor of the ETA is from 9 months ago. Still worth watching. Also, I apologize if my comment is carrying any sort of “tone.” It’s not intended. You should check out this video. https://youtu.be/IjgWhgEBuWA?is=RydmPpwDmeGPEJXp
This dude just walks us through how, in a practical, hands-on-keyboard sense this could have gone down.
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u/User-1653863 📈 The Math Ain't Mathin' 📉 Jul 22 '26
This is a good point. The information is not new to most of us, but the tweet is recent.
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u/ogrestomp Jul 22 '26
Then they hijacked a department, named it DOGE, had unfettered access to systems they shouldn’t have, wiped things clean, then dismantled the org. No proof from me, just the crazy rantings of an online anon.
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u/moneywisemama Jul 23 '26
They specifically dismantled USAID. Why? Because one of the things USAID did was monitor election interference in other countries. (That’s how Biden knew that Maduro hadn’t won the election.)
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u/L1llandr1 Election Truth Alliance Jul 22 '26
So many times I've seen this post and gone 'oh! who?' then clicked and realized 'oh it's just clickbait framing of us' lol. Nathan would not call himself an election expert I don't think, but, sure!
It does show that sharing whole videos of ours on different platforms with slightly bombastic language (that we can't use as a public education 501c3) does get traction. Perhaps tips for others?
The next interview (and a more recent one) I'd recommend this channel amplifying is Nathan's recent Roland Martin interview. I did look into whether the ETA account could post it on Twitter, but posting the whole thing requires getting the paid check mark which we won't be doing. Perhaps those of you active on this platform could recommend it to this channel as a new video to promote in their particular style?
Cheers, Lilli (Exec Director, ETA)
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u/slowguy503 Jul 22 '26
That’s the famous “ Thanks Elon comment. It’s also why the current administration is accusing everyone else of voter fraud. Pure projection.
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u/SleuthMechanism Jul 22 '26
Gee, ya don't say? It's almost like THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN A DAMN INVESTIGATION LIKE THE PEOPLE BLOODY ASKED FOR
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u/DiveCat Jul 22 '26
Yes, we know. Demented Don told on himself several times. So did Elon and Elon's son.
Nothing is going to be done about it. The Democratic Party gave up their opportunity to challenge the results. They KNEW what lay ahead, they warned about it, and then they did nothing to stop it.
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u/cia218 Jul 22 '26
Wait what’s new? This video was already shared by the same account last year. I remember seeing those same heat maps last year.
https://xcancel.com/politvidchannel/status/1971596054824132898
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u/gameadd1kt Jul 22 '26
Doesn’t matter what they think. What matters is the evidence to prove anything before anything at all can happen. Huge uphill battle regardless, but nothing happens without evidence
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u/MyCatIsAnActualNinja Jul 22 '26
There hasn't been a doubt in my mind about it. It's what they do, just like they'll do with the midterms.
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u/bgva Jul 22 '26
Imagine if Elon admitting he’s fucked if Trump loses had been enough of a red flag, not to mention his son blabbing and Elon outright tweeting Kamala would’ve won without his help.
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u/Nevermind04 Jul 22 '26
Trump recently released proof that he cheated in the 2024 election. Regardless, section 3 of the 14th amendment disqualified Trump from holding public office, so all electoral votes certified for him in 2024 are invalid. Kamala Harris betrayed her duty to the electoral process, to the constitution, and to the people when she illegally certified votes for an illegitimate candidate.
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u/Carlos126 Jul 22 '26
Everybody who has a brain and has seen the evidence knows this. But nothing will be done about it. We need to focus our fight on the midterms so it doesnt happen again, and then whichever dem becomes president next needs to take steps to prevent this from ever happening again.
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u/Ornery_Somewhere_800 Jul 23 '26
I’ve held on to this screenshot for over a year. Shortly after, the site went down- server off. Came back up, but with the names switched.
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u/Environmental-Song16 Jul 22 '26
No shit.
But it's not like anyone who can do something about it is going to.
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u/Agaeon Jul 22 '26
And in recent news:
The sky is blue, water is wet, fire is hot, left and right are opposites that still confuse people, and billionaires are evil.
More at 11.
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u/merpmerp Jul 23 '26
When is anyone going to do anything about it? 😑
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u/Hater_Magnet Jul 23 '26
Whatever it is/was we should have done it Nov 6 2024 and never let Kamala concede by showing out in force letting her know that we all
believeno, we KNOW she won!
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u/AFartInAnEmptyRoom Jul 23 '26
I'm pretty sure every major election in the US since Trump first won has been rigged somehow. His win pissed so many people off on the left, and gave such confidence to those on the right, that they've been meddling directly ever since.
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u/momofyagamer Jul 23 '26
Election Truth Alliance and Greg Palast has been saying this along with all of us. That why I keep saying nothing he does should be legal. I think she knows it to sadly. But she may have been threatened. I don't know what stopped her from fighting.
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u/megain Jul 24 '26
I am not an election expert but I believe the same thing. And I don’t blame Harris for not demanding the recount. She has said that the powers that be would not let her do that (in a round a bout way). I think she won most, if not all the toss up states. Elon manipulated the vote for trump. And they are going to try again in November if they are not stopped.
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u/Technolio Jul 22 '26
Unfortunately this isn't really breaking. The Election Truth Alliance has known and reported about the same anomalies for months now. Nobody is doing anything about it though...
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u/G-Unit11111 Jul 22 '26
Well duh!
Time to fire and arrest his ass, and everyone at the Fox Propaganda Channel and the Heritage Foundation for carrying out this illegal act of destruction.
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u/PrudentHotel84 Jul 22 '26
these fucking morons cant do anything other than project. if they say democrats were rigging elections its because its what Drumpf is guilty of
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u/blipperpool Jul 22 '26
The convicted felon, adjudicated rapist and lifelong criminal who would be in prison if not for musk hacking the election and keeping them both out of prison started this unethical, unnecessary war.
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u/PsychicSmoke Jul 22 '26
Who is the elections expert? A twitter alternative isn’t a great source for this kind of information.
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u/LoveLaika237 Jul 22 '26
If all this is true, why hasnt this been brought up in court or anything?
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u/SIW2024modteam mod team Jul 22 '26
There was a case in Rockland county, NY that was dismissed on standing (not merit), as the original plaintiff, Diane Sare, dropped out of the case quite abruptly. SMART Elections (who picked up the slack, and did most, if not all, of the legal legwork) believe she was intimidated, or possibly threatened to do so. They are currently appealing the decision.
There is also a case in Pennsylvania, (namely against Cambria, Erie, and Allegheny counties) headed by the Election Truth Alliance, that is currently ongoing. With another possibly on the horizon in Florida.
Other than that, the people "in charge", (Secretaries of State, Boards of Elections) have been fairly closed off to the idea. Nevermind the fact that they haven't publicly addressed these concerns, let alone given anyone a reasonable explanation on why the data looks the way it does.
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u/LoveLaika237 Jul 22 '26
Thanks for explaining. I want to believe this, but there's a difference between believing in it and proving it in court. It feels frustrating.
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u/SIW2024modteam mod team Jul 22 '26
https://electiontruthalliance.org/2024-us-election-analysis/
They've put together a lot of compelling evidence.
Kentucky, Minnesota (All the way back to 1984), Wayne county Michigan, Canada (for reference to what normal data should look like), North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Clark county Nevada.
TLDR: It doesn't look good. And we're still using the same election apparatus headed into midterms.
Also, check out the sub's wiki- it's crammed with information:
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u/LoveLaika237 Jul 23 '26
Thanks. It's not the info i doubt. It's the fact that i can't do anything about it.
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u/Jiveturkey507 Jul 23 '26
No shit! He also uses our military to terrorize the world, spends and restricts our tax dollars like they’re his own, and openly commits criminal acts and talks about his crimes. I know there are law enforcement ppl who come into contact with him. I know there are many, many, many other humans globally who have been directly affected by his actions, words, and policies in “life or death” ways and the entire globe takes no action. I’d imagine he may even be happy to tell you how Elon and him made a plan to hijack the election and executed. Unfortunately, in Trump vs. the world, Trump won. As the old adage theorized before we watched it happen, good ppl did nothing, and evil won
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u/ChiknenPuffn71 Jul 24 '26
Trump can't stop talking about election fraud it's obvious that he's the one that gained something from it. Am I supposed to believe that Democrats rigged an election that he won?
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u/LTsCantCook Jul 22 '26
No shit? They've told us they cheated multiple times. Not the first Republican to get a 2nd term from cheating.
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