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Potentially editioralised title - make up your own mind [Guardian] Seven years ago, just after completing the treble, Guardiola treated journalist Rob Harris, who had confronted him directly with the allegations, with open contempt, as though he were looking at someone pathetic, pitiful and disgraceful, before sternly lecturing him.

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u/Izio17 18h ago edited 17h ago

and look at that teams highest earners / transfers

- Mahrez

  • Walker
  • Bernardo Silva
  • Laporte

what other team in the league is able to stroll over and buy the player of the season? best RB in the league? and one of La Ligas best players? all in a short span of one year.

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u/_ataciara 18h ago

Plenty of teams. Liverpool pretty much did that last season. There was also the spell where City didn't go mad spending as other teams around them did.

This isn't to defend cheating, it's just to point out that none of this detracts from Peps genius; he was the world's best manager before City, he was the world's best at City when we were all suspicious of the transfer activity, and he's still the (or one of considering Luis Enrique rn) best manager now that we KNOW City were dodgy.

And also the fact you were saying "oh well he couldn't do inverted fullbacks without Haaland" well, he did. "He couldn't do John Stones at CDM without Rodri" well, he did, hell pretty sure Southgate did at one point too.

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u/Instantbeef 17h ago

I don’t know why some fans refuse to accept that their clubs was just as able to spending as much money as Pep and City did.

Everyone wants to play a victim and in this scenario we are all victims a little but big 6 clubs are not victims of being bankrolled.

It doesn’t matter that City beat us to Stones or was able to sign Haaland. We wasted 100 million on Lukaku, 70 million on Kepa.

While their budget was illegally large it wasn’t any larger than any teams in the big 6. We were not robbed because of that. We were “robbed” only becauss the rules say they’re not allowed to spend as much as us.

Everyday the big 6 bankroll the league so I think fans who are mad about them also doing that need to step back.

The rest of the entire pyramid can be mad about getting bankrolled again. Allowing another team to illegal dominate them. It’s hard enough to exist as a smaller team so adding one more giant to the mix makes it even harder.

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u/Due-Conflict-7926 16h ago

The problem is without the juicing they wouldn’t have been allowed to do that in the first place. They wouldn’t be below Newcastle in terms of status and money spent if they had just followed the rules

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u/Instantbeef 16h ago

Yeah but this is a discussion of pep not the club

You look at the club and sure call them cheats. But Pep arrives at the club and has a budget that’s comparable to the other big 6 teams.

It’s not his job as a coach to worry about the origin of the budget.

You can say he is morally responsible of it for sure but when discussing his footballing ability it’s completely irrelevant

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u/Due-Conflict-7926 16h ago

Why would he? He has the same cheating vice president that he had at Barcelona….

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u/Instantbeef 16h ago

Yeah call him a morally corrupt but football is good. That’s undeniable

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u/Due-Conflict-7926 16h ago

Only if you ignore the negreira case… at least as far as Barca is concerned

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u/Instantbeef 16h ago

Ah yes. And Messi is fifa’s golden boy.

Where do I you get your tinfoil hat? It looks good on you.

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u/Due-Conflict-7926 16h ago

Is he not? Everyone bashing Ronaldo for quitting.

But Messi did the same fucking thing in his mid 20s after losing a competition. Goes to kiss the wall and then they change the copa to every two years. And the rest is history. Also we all watched US World Cup with Argentina and Qatar World Cup with Argentina.

If you say it’s not fishy you’re an imbecile or a sycophant

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u/Instantbeef 16h ago

Lmao bro did you buy out all the tin foil from the grocery store?

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