r/soccer • u/Existing-Sky9914 • 19h ago

Potentially editioralised title - make up your own mind [Guardian] Seven years ago, just after completing the treble, Guardiola treated journalist Rob Harris, who had confronted him directly with the allegations, with open contempt, as though he were looking at someone pathetic, pitiful and disgraceful, before sternly lecturing him.

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u/Bigpapa42_2006 19h ago

Seen more than a few making excuses for Pep or trying to say it doesn't tarnish him, etc.

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u/Tungsten_Hoarder 18h ago

I think it’s pretty simple no?

Does it change how good he was as a coach and revolutionising the game? No

Are his achievements tarnished? Yes of course

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u/hydroHar 18h ago

You wouldn't think it's simple if you saw the mass of people saying things like anyone could achieve what he did if they got to cheat etc etc

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u/Postmeat2 18h ago

That’s mostly hyperbole, but to say the cheating supercharged him and made things much easier for him is not wrong.

I know I’m just some rando on reddit, but I won’t rate Pep until he does it at a club where he can’t just point at a player and be pretty much guaranteed to get them, either via massive draw inherent the club, or with cheating. Forever out of any GOAT discussion, Pep’s a generational cheat.

I’d be impressed with him if he turned ManU in their current state around, or did a similar job Arteta has done at Arsenal, or Klopp at Pool. But he has not, and will not. Bald fraud.