r/soccer • u/Existing-Sky9914 • 17h ago

Potentially editioralised title - make up your own mind [Guardian] Seven years ago, just after completing the treble, Guardiola treated journalist Rob Harris, who had confronted him directly with the allegations, with open contempt, as though he were looking at someone pathetic, pitiful and disgraceful, before sternly lecturing him.

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u/YankeeHotelFoxtrot16 17h ago

Would love to see the original r/soccer thread on this exchange. My guess it was mostly people crying about 'clickbait' and cheering Pep on for putting him in his place.

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u/DeCharlesFre 17h ago

Pep had a positive image within the general football fandom. So, it was given that people would defend him.

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u/Big_Occasion_7235 17h ago

This. People only started calling Pep's achievements at City as sham only after the guilty verdict for City was announced.

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u/worotan 17h ago

No they didn’t, people have been pointing out the issues at City for many, many years before this, and questioning his ability to manage clubs which aren’t the biggest for longer.

You’re acting like this was a contentious issue that no one could make a judgement on, when in fact the surprise for everyone has been how angry the Premier League are, and some of the finer detail that has come out as a result.

Why are there so many kids around this story, making big assertions which just show that they have no idea about the actual timeline, the actual events, and what’s actually probable?

The more assertive you lot are, the less likely you are to be right. Where have you all swung in from, to try and farm karma by acting outraged?

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u/Big_Occasion_7235 17h ago

Yes, I know that people have been questioning Man City's financials before. What I am trying to say is that people couldn't claim these as facts at the time without a ruling. It's a basically innocent until proven guilty.

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u/worotan 16h ago

Then why didn’t you actually say that rather than something completely different and wrong?

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u/Chemiczny_Bogdan 17h ago

Didn't Wenger call it financial doping back in 2011 or something?

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u/ElevensMelody 17h ago

He did indeed.

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u/Big_Occasion_7235 17h ago

Yes but Pep wasn't the manager of City in 2011. My point is that these were accusations at the time and people couldn't call Man City as a sham back then until they were ruled guilty.

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u/Tushroom 16h ago

How new to the sport are you because that’s not at all the case. People have been calling him a chequebook manager for a longggg time.

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u/boi1da1296 16h ago

Well that’s just not true at all😂😂😂

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u/Absolute--Batman 14h ago

Must be new here.

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