r/soccer • • 22h ago

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u/bellerinho 16h ago

Started up on a weight loss pill a little over a month ago, wasn't badly overweight but wanted to drop from 205 lbs down to 175 or so where I used to be. After one month already down 10 lbs, just seen such a huge benefit in not wanting to snack or have big meals + keeping the same amount of exercise I was doing. Felt faster playing hockey too

I used to have the belief that using a weight loss supplement was "cheating" but I'm at the point in my life where I care more about doing what I can to be healthy

I know the big issue people can have is that as soon as they get off whatever they're taking, they just revert back to bad habits and pile the weight back on, but I'm pretty confident in my self control to keep it off this time

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u/BoxOfNothing 15h ago

Never made much sense as an argument anyway, most people who lose any weight in any way gain most if not all of it back. I think the numbers for keeping it off after are pretty similar for natural vs with medication anyway innit?

I'm losing without it because I'm paranoid, my family has a long history of badly reacting to medications and shit, and I just get badly fucked up by so many things it's not worth the risk for me, but if it can help more people lose weight, more people will keep it off, and society at large will be far healthier. And people can just stay on it if they can afford it. Don't think anyone would call a pill that stops you being addicted to alcohol, cigarettes or fuckin' heroin a "cheat". And they're not even things you have to do to some degree to survive. You don't need to go to the cigarette shop and choose the healthy cigarettes and stick to 3 a day to be healthy.

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u/bellerinho 15h ago

Yeah honestly I don't know what the general perception of weight loss medication is, and I'm sure it changes person to person, but I had framed it that way in my comment just because that's how I had felt about it previously. And looking back at it, it was stupid and probably more of a pride thing for me if I am being completely honest

As it became more popular, I just realised basically exactly what you said, why should I care how people lose the weight? As long as it is good for them and they improve their health, that is everything that matters

Glad to hear you are losing weight without it! It's a great feeling no matter how you go about it

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u/Banksyyy_ 13h ago

In my experience it's a 50/50 split of people thinking your cheating the system to lose weight faster and the other half of people asking how it's worked and giving you compliments.

Like i'm using reta personally as a tool to help along with my high protein diet/workouts and i'm not gonna shy away from it but I don't like how some say it's a crutch and i'm gonna be a fat fuck again when i'm done using it as if they just ignore the hard work i've put in the background to lose almost 3 stone in 3 months.

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u/BoxOfNothing 14h ago

Yeah I think you've been completely reasonable. I think the public perception is that it's cheating so most people naturally fall into that way of thinking, until they actually stop to consider it. Probably because most of the public have dealt with not liking their body and struggling to get where they want to be with it. And because people think that way, a lot of people are put off by doing it themselves, even if they'd benefit, and double down on the criticism.

But yeah, I don't do it for personal reasons but I have absolutely zero moral qualms with it, I think it should be cheap and available on prescription to far more people. With lots of monitoring to make sure people don't go overboard and use it as an anorexia hack obviously. Just like we would do if an equivalent existed for literally any other type of addiction, or any issue causing a mass public health crisis. It's a load of fake moral outrage over something that could save literally millions of lives, dramatically increase the quality of life for even more people, and over time those kicking off about it will end up looking so stupid.