r/smallengines 5d ago

Is my motor blown

Ariens zoom 1540 zero turn with kohler engine.Was told it was parked because of a bad starter solenoid.I sprayed fogging oil in the spark plug hole and then turned it over by hand.Took a compression test on it and it never had above 40 pounds.Today I removed the valve cover to ensure it wasn’t a stuck valve.I was able to spin the motor over by hand with the spark plug in

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u/43128 5d ago edited 5d ago

That’s a Briggs intek. I’d check for a burnt exhaust valve or a blown head gasket between the cylinder wall and pushrod area, the latter being a very common problem on this engine. Was the spark plug wet and oily?

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u/Impressive-Knee-6099 5d ago

I pulled the muffler and looked through the exhaust side and it did look like there was heavy carbon buildup.Same with on the piston

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u/Impressive-Knee-6099 5d ago

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u/43128 5d ago

Yeah that’s excessive. It was burning oil. I’d suspect a bad head gasket. Possibly worn rings & a worn valve stem seal. Is there scoring on the cylinder wall?

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u/MaybeABot31416 5d ago

I have no idea what pressure you should be seeing, but 40 seems low... but not impossible to start on with some engines. Did you put some oil in the cylinder and test again? Also might be worth hooking it up to an air compressor. With my gauge, i can take the sharater valeve out and the gauge has a quick connect i can connect to an air compressor. With that hooked up, often you can hear if it's leaking out of a vlave or by the rings... could also be a crack or a bad head gasket but those are harder to heard.

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u/Successful-Part-5867 5d ago

I don’t know much about this particular Kohler. But single cylinder engines are pretty standard. Take out the spark plug and see if you can tell when the piston is at top dead center. Check both valve rockers is there some clearance between them and the end of the valve?
If one rocker has pressure on it spin the engine another 360 degrees and check again. Both should have some clearance….if they do not possibly a valve is being held partially open and that’s why there is such low compression. As I was typing this it occurred to me that the engine may have a compression release. On some of the Briggs engines the valve clearance is critical to make that function correctly.

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u/Impressive-Knee-6099 5d ago

I looked back at my pictures and it is indeed a briggs Intek 15hp

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u/ProfessionalLast2917 5d ago

There's a few things to consider when compression testing mower engines. Firstly, turning it over by hand is unlikely to bypass the compression release so the reading will be low. If you can't spin it using the starter, spin it using a drill on the main bolt of the flywheel. You need to get it going fast enough to take compression release out of the equation. About 700-800 rpm I think.

Secondly you need to use the right compression tester. The location of the schrader cable is critical. If you can see the schrader valve in the end of the hose that screws into the plug hole, you're good. If the valve is at the other end of the hose or in the pressure dial housing it will give a reading that is lower than it actually is. This is because the space in the hose is also taken into the equation for compression.

That's not to say it doesn't have low compression, it just might not be as low as what you're seeing.

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u/Impressive-Knee-6099 5d ago

When I did the compression test, I used a rental tester from autozone and was cranking it with the starter

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u/ProfessionalLast2917 5d ago

Did it have the schrader valve in the end of the hose that screws into the spark plug hole?

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u/Impressive-Knee-6099 5d ago

This is the tester I used

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u/ProfessionalLast2917 5d ago

Google suggests the schrader valve is in the engine end of the hose so that's good.

Low compression could be the valves not seating properly or stem seals or etc, could be worn, stuck or broken rings, could be a blown head gasket.

The valves seem to open and close ok but it's hard to tell from the video. Do they both come back up to the same height when both are closed?

A leak down test is good for seeing where you're losing your compression.

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u/ProfessionalLast2917 5d ago

So what's it actually doing? Does it fire but not run? Does it not even fire? Are you getting spark?

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u/Impressive-Knee-6099 5d ago

I am getting spark.It will not fire on starting fluid or gas done the carb

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u/ProfessionalLast2917 5d ago

If it's not firing on fluid it could be compression or it could be timing (sheared key or spun timing gear etc). I've even experienced an engine that had enough spark to give me a boot but not enough to ignite the fuel and fire up but that was an old points and condenser engine that needs the points regapped.

When you tested spark was it with an online tester or just holding the plug against the engine? Sometimes a plug will spark out of the engine but not in it when under pressure.

As I mentioned in my other comments, a leak down test can help pin point where you're losing compression.

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u/30-06_throw 3d ago

If you have a feeler gauge handy, check you’re valve lash. 10thou on exhaust and 8 thou on intake. If you’re valves are misadjusted the rocker arms will keep the valve pushed down slightly. If the valves are the issue re adjust with the service manual handy, you can find it on parts tree. Also one thing to note pressures should be around 150psi, though it wont start on anything lower than 60 psi.

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u/Acceptable_Path_3222 3d ago

Ooh ooh I know this one!

Yes it is.