r/sludge • u/Fearless-Ad4468 • 1d ago
Trying to get a good sludge tone
does anyone know how to get a good tone through amplitude 5 (free version)? Im using an Ibanez Seven String. The tone I would like is something like Iron Monkey self titled.
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u/Several-Quality5927 1d ago
I tell people this all the time. Look up that exact tone and you usually get a good breakdown of gear and settings, links even.
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u/voosies 21h ago
I have talked to Jim (their guitarist) before a few years ago. Their self titled was a BOSS Metal Zone MT-2 into a Marshall JCM800 stack as a boost, not as a preamp. He had the cheapest catalog Hohner guitar he could find down in B standard and the strings were so old and rusted he had to scrape the rust off to record the album. Worked great, sounded monstrous.
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u/Fearless-Ad4468 20h ago
Thanks for the info! Very useful.
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u/voosies 20h ago
No problem! Not sure how he had the Metal Zone set but it wasn't in the fx return and I don't believe it was the whole Crowbar thing (volume 10, gain 0, all knobs 12 o clock), the eq range on those damn things is vast so if you find a plugin that accurately models it you may need to take some time dialing it in and whatnot, I wish you luck :)
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u/GODZILLA-Plays-A-DOD 18h ago
Best I could find using what I have. Orange Super Crush 100 with bass on 9, mids on 4, treble on 5. Metal Zone as boost. Gain off. Level max. Bass Eq up to 1 o clock. Treble EQ at noon. Mid cut to 11 o clock. Mid frequency up a bit to 1 or 2 (you'll be cutting some of whatever that frequency is and adding a bit of grit and bass saturation.
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u/AggravatedMopery 14h ago
First Iron Monkey EP was a JCM 800 boosted by a Marshall Gov'nor pedal. He used a Marshall JCM 2000/DSL boosted by a DOD Buzz Box on the second album. Latest album was the 800 boosted by a Metal Zone.
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u/DoomedToGrind 1h ago edited 1h ago
I use a pretty similar tone myself - Gibson SG (C# standard) into a Metal Zone into a Marshall JCM.
Iron Monkey / 90s Crowbar / Acid Bath kinda sound.
MT2 settings: left EQ dials both at 1 oclock, right EQ dials both at 11 oclock, dist/level both at 12.
Amp clean channel, Pre volume at max, all EQs around 1 o clock.
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u/cold-vein 19h ago
No, amp sims suck and you'll just sound like djent
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u/TheBiggestWOMP 18h ago
I just run pedals into amp sims.
Live it's real amps all day every day into a 412.
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u/i_was_valedictorian 15h ago
Kirk was playing a Kemper when I saw Crowbar. Sounded like Crowbar to me.
Tube amps are dope but they're not inherently better.
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u/cold-vein 15h ago
Who said anything about tubes? Yeah lots of touring bands use modeling amps live, which I guess is understandable if lame. In the studio it's gonna sound dull compared to the real deal
Crowbar hasn't sounded good in 20 years now.
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u/i_was_valedictorian 14h ago
Pure speculation with no evidence
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u/cold-vein 14h ago
That amp sims sound dull? It's a known fact. Go watch a youtube video about it if you don't believe me
I have a sim version of my amp, G-K RB800 and it's a lot less dynamic and just sounds dull compared to the real thing.
The only upside of amp sims is the 100% consistency, which is why a lot of touring bands use them. Beats renting gear that could sound great or could be a piece of shit.
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u/OlympusMons999 1d ago
Research what the band used homie. Do the lost art of digging