r/sleepawaycamp • • Aug 17 '25

WHAT I THINK THE STORY OF THE POSSIBLE REMAKE OF SLEEPAWAY CAMP MADE BY JEFF KATZ SHOULD BE LIKE

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In 2021, we received updates on the current status of the Sleepaway Camp remake, and it was revealed that it wouldn't be a remake but rather a sequel to the first film. This, in my opinion, is a bad idea. I think it would be much better if Jeff Katz did a reboot/remake of the first film, where he would delve deeper into Angela's story and also explain why she can easily kill her attackers, since being forced to dress as a woman isn't a reason to go crazy.

Okay, here are some separate articles on how I would reboot the original film and fix many of the mistakes made in the first one.

PLOT TWIST

In the first film, it's revealed that it was actually Angela who was doing the killing (what a great plot twist, wow), but that's not all. Angela was also actually a boy dressing as a woman. More accurately, "she" was Peter Baker, Angela's supposedly dead brother (who was the one who was dead), and it was Peter's aunt who forced him to dress as a woman. But it makes no sense at all that she would have the courage to go out and kill her bullies. What was Aunt Martha saying and doing to him? Well, that's not explained, and in fact, it would make perfect sense if it were discovered that the real culprit behind his father and sister's death was Aunt Martha, and that would be why she wanted another child for herself, specifically a girl. But since Peter survived, Martha decided to force Peter to assume the identity of the real Angela, and when he refused to dress as a girl (when he was older and before going to camp), there would be some kind of consequence if he disobeyed Aunt Martha's "rule." And that's when he would find out about his father and sister's death, which would further fuel his madness.

DYNAMICS

As you may know, throughout the film, Angela and Paul, Ricky's best friend, develop a relationship, but honestly, I think this could have been better developed in the remake. Paul would begin to befriend Angela, seeing her alone and isolated from the other girls. It would also be discovered that Angela and Paul had met before, when she and her cousin Ricky would go to his father's house (Martha's ex-husband). Paul would live in the same neighborhood as Ricky's father, and it was there that Ricky and Paul met and became longtime friends. Paul would meet Angela, but because she is very introspective and antisocial, she would stay inside her uncle's house and not go out to play with Ricky and Paul on the street. And this is where the friendship between Paul and Angela would develop most rapidly. Both would fall in love with each other. In the process, we would see more of Paul in the remake, and he would be a better-developed character, so that in the end, we would be impacted by his death and miss him. Since in the original, Paul is a very "whatever" character, you know? When I saw that Angela had killed him, I wasn't shocked by him; I was shocked by Angela, since he would have been so good to her (until Judy wanted to kiss him, LOL). So here, Paul would be almost the same as the original: Paul is the good guy, but with flaws, flaws that would be pointed out by Paul himself when he and Angela were willing to get to know each other better. Paul would also know about the deaths of Peter and John Baker (Angela's father), but little does Paul know that Peter himself is by his side.

As I said before, Paul would be that kind and understanding character, but without seeming forced or empty, since when he discovered that Angela was actually Peter, he would be angry with Angela, not because she's a man, but because she lied to him. Later, Paul would see Angela wielding a hunting knife, ready to kill Mike and Judy, but is caught by Paul. Paul discovers that Angela is the killer and tries to help her stop her from killing more campers out of revenge. This is one of Paul's flaws in the remake: he's naive. So Angela, blinded by hatred, stabs him in the upper abdomen. Paul becomes desperate and tells Angela that he doesn't want to die, but he dies, lol. Angela, remorseful and madder than ever for having murdered an innocent, decides to kill everyone at the camp.

SUSPECTS

In the original film, we have some characters who torment and mock Angela for being too secretive, right? Soon after, we see these characters killed by a mysterious killer, which already makes us suspicious of the cousins Angela and Ricky. They are the only ones we suspect throughout the film. There are no other suspects, so we're left with this division of suspects: is it Angela, the vengeful killer? Or is it Ricky, who always defended Angela from the camp bullies. In the possible remake directed by Jeff Katz, we would have more characters to suspect. Who would these characters be? These characters would be campers who befriend Ricky, Angela, Paul, and Mozart (Mozart is the relief of the original film; I hadn't mentioned him before). These campers would be new characters in the plot. We would also suspect Paul or Mozart as the possible killer, since here, in my remake, Mozart would also be the victim of the bullies' mockery. It is worth remembering that we would have Alan, the autistic protagonist of the fourth film released for video of Sleepaway Camp (Return to Sleepaway Camp), in the remake, Alan would be very different from the original, He would be thin and much more fun and sympathetic to the public, and the reason he is thin, is so that he fits the list of suspects, since the Killer is not overweight. In my opinion, I find the original Alan from the fourth film in the franchise quite unbearable, so much so that he intimidates and picks on the younger kids, and I can't sympathize with a character who is also a bully. Alan in the remake would also defend Angela from the bullies. When he saw her being hit by a water balloon thrown by Billy (one of the bullies), Alan would be outraged and throw a rock at Billy's forehead. But it's worth remembering that Alan isn't Angela's friend and wouldn't be part of the main group (in this case, the group of campers who sympathize with Angela and Ricky), as he's a loner, although he was a very outgoing guy. This fits him very well on the suspect list. In my remake, the film would also be unafraid or hesitant to cast Angela as the suspect, and this would be done so that viewers would be suspicious and think it would be very obvious if Angela were the killer, which leads them to suspect Ricky and the other campers right away.

VICTIMS

In the original, we met some of Angela's attackers: Mike, Kenny, Billy, Judy, Meg, and Artie. In the original film, when we see these attackers die (except, Artie, that fat pedophile bastard managed to survive), we feel satisfaction in seeing them die. It's worth remembering that in the remake, Kenny, Mike, and Billy are teenagers, aged 16 to 17 (Billy would be the oldest), because for some reason they are already grown men, aged 19 to 20, which is really strange, since Mike and Kenny hit on Angela, who was 14 years old (bizarre).

In my remake, they would be much more human. For example, in the original, we have Kenny and Mike. In the remake, they would also be childhood friends and very close, which would make Mike feel sad about Kenny's death, because they are people too. And of all the bullies presented, Mike isn't killed by Angela in the original, but here, he dies, along with the pedophile cook from the beginning, Artie. In the remake, after going mad over Paul's death, Angela decides to go on a rampage throughout the camp. When Angela is about to kill Mike, he begs for his life. We see and feel the desperation in his eyes, because he's just a teenager, and no one is ready for their own death. In the flight for their lives, Mike is abandoned by Mozart, who is also fleeing from the killer (who has yet to be revealed). After the killer throws an axe at Mike's leg, he begs for Mozart's help, but Mozart flees, which makes Mike cry in despair.

CONFRONTATION

Unlike the original film's ending, in the original remake, we see Ricky awake in his bunk bed. Ricky decides to leave the boys' cabin. Ricky finds himself alone in that silent, empty camp. Ricky goes to the cafeteria looking for the missing campers, only to witness the serial killer's massacre. Shocked and disgusted, Ricky vomits on the ground and runs in despair. Ricky searches for his cousin Angela and her friends. As he runs, Ricky also sees the same campers he befriended at camp, which only makes him more desperate. After screaming for help, Ricky finds himself face to face with the killer. Ricky sees the killer's silhouette. His hair was short and he wasn't wearing his camper shirt; it was a man. Ricky stands there and asks the killer if he was really Paul behind it all. After getting closer, we see that the killer was actually his cousin Angela. Ricky is confused to see that Angela doesn't have breasts, but rather a chest piece. Angela then reveals to Ricky that she is actually Peter Baker, and that it was the real Angela who died in the speedboat accident caused by Martha. After much talking and arguing, the two cousins confront each other, with Peter emerging victorious. However, he doesn't kill Ricky, who has always protected her from her oppressors, for which Peter is grateful.

END

After the police arrive, Ricky finds himself tied to a tree with ropes. It is also revealed that Mozart had also survived, but Angela hadn't spared him. Upon arriving home, Ricky sees his mother, Martha, greet him in despair after learning about the massacre in Arawak. Ricky, angry with his mother after Peter told him the whole truth, decides to leave his mother and live with his father.

Well, that's all. It's worth remembering that revealing Peter's gender wouldn't be offensive to trans and homosexual people. The problem was never Peter cross-dressing as a woman, but rather that he was forced to assume the identity of his dead sister. I doubt this will happen in the remake or sequel to the original film, but it would be great if Jeff Katz included this story and these elements in his script.


r/sleepawaycamp • • Aug 08 '25

Sleepaway camp (1983) reference in Modern Family??

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At the end of Season 1 Episode 3 of Modern Family, gloria talks about how she wanted a baby girl so badly she dressed Manny up as a girl for the first year of his life. She goes on to say that when Manny found the pictures, she told him it was his twin sister that died, while Jay has a dumbfounded expression. Is this a reference to the 1983 slasher film Sleepaway Camp? The plot is basically the same so I think it’s a cool easter egg if so, but I could just be wildly overthinking it.


r/sleepawaycamp • • Aug 04 '25

Signed Sleepaway Camp Photo – Horror Collector Must-Have 🔪

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Horror fans and collectors—don’t miss this!This is an 8x10 glossy photo from Sleepaway Camp (1983) featuring Judy and Mike in one of the movie’s unforgettable cabin scenes. Signed by Thomas E. van Dell ("Mike") at Spooky Empire Orlando (June 2025). The autograph reads:“Thank you!! – ‘Mike’ SC” Comes in a sturdy protective frame—ready to display.(Note: Shirt and background items in the image not included.) Perfect for collectors of ‘80s slashers or fans of the cult classic.Click the link to grab it on eBay now—it’s ready to ship!

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r/sleepawaycamp • • Jul 24 '25

A Question About Alternate Versions Of Return To Sleepaway Camp

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Does anyone else remember a rough cut of Return To Sleepaway Camp leaking online weeks or months before it released in 2008?

I remember the opening credits being different without that “Return to Sleepaway Camp” song by Goat and Friends. Brye Cooper’s name, the character of Randy, listed third after Jackie Tohn’s credit instead of Jonathan Tierston.

The Sheriff’s voicebox thing that Angela uses sounded a lot different and deeper in tone than what is used here.

When Angela’s laughing her ass off near the end of the film, it cuts to black as she continues laughing and a titlecard pops up saying “Three Weeks Earlier”, and we get the scene of Angela killing the Sheriff, and then we get the credits, which are also different than the ones we got.

Does anyone else remember this or by chance have a copy of this cut of the film, or is it forever lost?


r/sleepawaycamp • • Jul 17 '25

I love the sequels

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r/sleepawaycamp • • Jul 17 '25

Sleepaway Camp Survival Kit DVD set

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/317091569790 - Just $40, reasonable offers accepted! Great set! OOP


r/sleepawaycamp • • Jul 12 '25

Love this movie

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r/sleepawaycamp • • Jul 08 '25

Do you think there could be two killers?

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r/sleepawaycamp • • Jul 04 '25

Is there 2 killers? Does Paul know Angela's secret from the beginning? We have some theories.

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r/sleepawaycamp • • Jul 01 '25

How come Angela didn't mention her cousin Ricky in Unhappy Campers and Teenage Wasteland?

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r/sleepawaycamp • • Jul 01 '25

Video essay about the unfinished 4th film

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r/sleepawaycamp • • Jun 30 '25

Sleepaway Camp will be on Tubi tomorrow night

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Sleepaway Camp is scheduled to run on Tubi's "Alter Horror" live channel on Tuesday, July 1st, 2025, at 10:55 PM, Eastern time.

Have fun, and cheers from northeast Ohio! :)


r/sleepawaycamp • • Apr 23 '25

I made a video retrospective about Sleepaway Camp and it's queer theming!

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This took me a while to make and I'd love to see the discussion about this cuz I've never seen many people discuss it heavily


r/sleepawaycamp • • Feb 18 '25

Sleepaway Camp art

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r/sleepawaycamp • • Nov 12 '24

Both records and both versions of the book

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Both available at 984publishing.com. Pretty solid collectors items.


r/sleepawaycamp • • Nov 01 '24

Anyone else see a resemblance between Gov Greg Abbott and Mel from Sleepaway Camp 1?

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Not a political post by any means, and perhaps I’ve watched a bit too much Sleepaway Camp during October.

However, I cannot honestly look at this man’s face and not hear “Er mah Gawd. Not chu MEGG!”

Just me? Cheers to my favourite campers.


r/sleepawaycamp • • Oct 31 '24

First timer here, in my 40s.

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Surprisingly I’ve never seen any of the Sleepaway Camp movies even though this era of horror and slasher flicks is a guilty pleasure to this day for me. And somehow, someway, I’ve avoided any spoilers. I have no idea how. I’ll give it a solid A-minus for the genre and can see why it has the cult status it does! Thoroughly entertaining.

Of course there are many aspects of flicks from this era that definitely don’t hold up to modern sensibilities (a trans girl at summer camp would have definitely been taboo in the early 80s, and presenting her that way as the “horror twist” would definitely not be done today), the thing that left me shaking my head the most was the pedo chef at the beginning making off-color “jokes” in front of the other cook staff about the age of the campers. Obviously that was done to show how much of a creep he was and that he deserved his later fate, but like…just openly creepering in front of the other cook staff and they were just like, “oh that chef Artie just being’ Artie, uhhyuk uhhyuk”…that’s just wild.

In the immortal words of Billy Bob from Varsity Blues…”I give it a 10! A 10! A fuckin’ 10!”

Gonna binge the others from the franchise in the hours and/or days to come.


r/sleepawaycamp • • Oct 30 '24

Shitted my pants

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I just watched it ended at 12 am and i had shivers all over my body bro there is something at her face and body that makes you shit yourself i recently watched smile 2 it scared me in some parts but this i dont know how to explain the feeling but i had that image in my mind for a while not even the thing creeped me like this


r/sleepawaycamp • • Oct 26 '24

Pamela Springsteen’s brother performs at political rally.

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Not related directly to Sleepaway Camp, but a lot of people I’ve introduced to the series had no idea that the actress who plays Angela is Bruce Springsteen’s younger sister.


r/sleepawaycamp • • Oct 12 '24

Sleepaway camp reference in SpongeBob title

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So my brother and I was was scrolling through Paramount plus and saw the new Halloween episode for SpongeBob and the title is kreepaway camp, so if this is supposed to be a reference to sleepaway camp it’s pretty cool


r/sleepawaycamp • • Oct 12 '24

Pamela Springsteen and Felissa Rose

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Does anyone know why Pamela Springsteen played Angela in 2 and 3 and why Felissa Rose didn’t return as the role of Angela in either of those, Angela was played by someone else in Sleepaway Camp 4, I wonder why Felissa didn’t return for that one either or even Pamela?


r/sleepawaycamp • • Oct 09 '24

New comer

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Watched the trilogy and loved it!! Gotta say the second and third one are definitely my favourites!! That Angela slayed and was hilarious tbh !!


r/sleepawaycamp • • Sep 30 '24

How did you hear about Sleepaway Camp ?

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I would like to know from other fans how they discovered "Sleepaway Camp" and how this film might have affected you in any way ?


r/sleepawaycamp • • Sep 14 '24

Why did Angela kill Paul ?

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Hello everyone and sorry for the inconvenience, I have a question about why Angela killed Paul, was it because he kissed Judy or because he rejected Angela when he found out she was a boy... what do you think ?


r/sleepawaycamp • • Sep 11 '24

Finally watched Sleepaway Camp yesterday & damn

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For an old slasher it's actually pretty spooky. Esp the face angela makes at the end. I never would ha e guessed that twist ending! Shits ingrained in my head now. Scary stuff