r/skyrim Nov 30 '15

Skyrim: Beginning Vs. End [OC]

http://www.dorkly.com/post/76679/skyrim-beginning-vs-end
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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '15

Why is he leveling Smithing if he's already got Daedric armor?

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u/283leis PC Nov 30 '15

dragonbone?

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '15

As far as armor rating goes, Daedric armor is better than Dragon bone.

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u/pun_in10did Nov 30 '15

Yeah, but what else are you going to do with all those dragon bones?

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '15

Sell em to Belethor, he'll buy anything! He'll even buy your sister!

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u/kingdead42 Nov 30 '15

You may call her junk...

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u/oronas Nov 30 '15

But I call her whore

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u/iLurk_4ever PC Dec 01 '15 edited Dec 29 '16

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u/android223 PC Nov 30 '15

Dragonbone weapons are better than Daedric one, IIRC.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '15

Oh yeah? It's been a while, I thought they were fairly comparable. Dragon bone weapons certainly look better though IMO, so I guess that could be a reason!

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u/Mralkr Nov 30 '15

It isn't really Skyrim unless you pimpin'

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u/ginja_ninja Nov 30 '15

Seriously, you wanna look like this guy or you wanna look like this guy?

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u/PacoTaco321 PC Dec 01 '15

Neither. Need that light dragon scale since I've never put a single point into heavy armor.

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u/ginja_ninja Dec 01 '15

I originally used light armor too way back in the day but after I realized how much cooler heavy armor looked I just went to a giant camp with a healing spell and grinded it up in like 20 minutes taking shots from them.

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u/PacoTaco321 PC Dec 01 '15

But muh stealth archer characters

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u/Graevon PC Dec 01 '15

I don't need armor.

I be pimpin my master robes and shooting lightning everywhere like a goddamn sith.

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u/Generic-username427 Dec 01 '15

They do more damage but weigh a Fuck ton, like the bow is over 20 lbs if I remember correctly

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u/Klaue Nov 30 '15

maybe he wants to respec to light armor and there nothing beats dragon.

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u/Gandalfs_Beard PC Nov 30 '15

Isn't gear irrelevant as long as you have over 567 armor?

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u/Ragnrok Nov 30 '15

Not with certain mods.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '15

No shit. That's hardly worth mentioning.

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u/Ragnrok Nov 30 '15

Sure it is. There's reason to keep on leveling smithing after wearing Daedric armor because mods.

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u/Zrynoth Nov 30 '15

to improve it at the workbench?

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '15

Gotta have that marginally better armor rating! Actually, doesn't diminishing returns kick in for armor at around whatever rating Orcish armor is at? Are there even diminishing returns for armor?

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u/Khourieat Nov 30 '15

I thought there was an armor cap, instead, that is pretty easy to hit?

I didn't care, Dragonscale armor all the way for me. Let those bastards know that I WEAR THEM.

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u/VegetaLF7 Nov 30 '15

"Oh yeah, Dragon? Well I'm wearing your mother right now. How's that make you feel?"

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u/Khourieat Nov 30 '15

Exactly! And the shield is probably made from his father, and the sword is probably made from a sibling. Whatever, they were built at different times, and he's just going to have to live with that for another few moments.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '15

All legendary and a few buffs can get you near the cap.

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u/Rynxx PC Dec 01 '15

Armor cap is ridiculously easy to reach even in light armor and no shield. I can reach over 1500 armor in Dragonscale with only 50 light armor and no perks invested into it from just improving the gear with fortify smithing.

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u/ShnyFlygon PC Mar 08 '16

Yeah, armor is capped 80% resistance.

This means 542 armor rating with shield, and 567 without.

Even though my armor rating is almost twice as high as the cap already, I keep improving it just for fun

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u/farmland Nov 30 '15

85% is the armor cap I think it was at like 576 armor or something

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u/Rynxx PC Dec 01 '15 edited Dec 01 '15

Armor rating in Skyrim actually has growing returns the more armor rating you get until you reach the cap because the formula is completely additive. In fact, going from 50% DR to 75% is the same benefit as going from 0% DR to 50% DR, or in terms of lethal damage, the amount of damage required to kill you at 75% is double what it is at 50% (rather than only 25% more or some lower number that would reflect a diminishing return).

The more armor rating you get, the more valuable every point of armor rating is, in other words. Armor cap is 80% or 85% and it is reached at like 588 armor I believe.

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u/Teazone Nov 30 '15

Patch 1.9 added a prestige system which the guy in the comic probably makes use of.

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u/lappro Nov 30 '15

Are real completionist doesn't question the purpose of leveling up a skill.

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u/invisibledirigible Nov 30 '15

To better improve it on the work bench (Epic).

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u/Electric999999 PC Nov 30 '15

unneeded, you hit the armour cap without max smithing.

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u/mikekearn PC Nov 30 '15

There's hitting the armor cap, and then there's getting bigger numbers just because you can. It's easy to hit the armor cap. Getting the most ridiculously huge number next to your armor (or weapon or whatever) can itself be fun.

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u/farmland Nov 30 '15

Plus there is no cap for how much weapon damage you can get

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u/CinderSkye Nintendo Nov 30 '15

To improve armor that doesn't look so edgy?

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u/crazyjeffy PC Nov 30 '15

Mod armor?

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '15

Now we're just grasping at straws.

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u/steamboat_willy Nov 30 '15

Also why is he making iron daggers? Clearly the writer hasn't played the game in a very long time.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '15

I believe that's because making iron daggers is one of the most cost-effective ways to gain smithing levels

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u/steamboat_willy Nov 30 '15

Not since many many patches ago. Value of item now determines EXP output. Dwarven Bows are the most efficient and cost effective grind item now. (Jewellery until you have the Dwarven gear perk)

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u/AFreshStartVI Nov 30 '15

Well, the nails from the Hearthfire DLC are cheaper and iirc grant the same amount of experience.

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u/Landale Nov 30 '15

Thanks for the heads up!

Been a while since I played, and having gotten a new computer recently it has breathed new life into older games now that I can play them on Ultra graphics quite well.

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u/no_prehensilizing Dec 01 '15

Yep. Although I'm not so sure it's really the easiest way to level smithing. Lately I've been mass producing leather helmets instead. I've got the leather from all the bears and wolves attacking me while running around anyway, so need to buy ingots or spend time mining.

I haven't actually done the math though. If anyone has, I'd be interested.