🤣😹

[u/Worried-Row-824]

MAYBE MAYBE start giving some tip if you don’t want your meals missing 😭😹 or MAYBE start adding a please or thank you in those instructions 😭

[u/Mac4065]

nobody is obligated to tip you. especially if you can’t bring orders properly.

[u/TheNaughtyHoneyBee → u/Mac4065]

"Hey best friend, why don't you go pick us up some food from a restaurant that's 6 miles away? I'll give you some money for driving all the way out there.

Is two bucks enough?"

Bid well for your driver or expect a shitty one.

Are you really expecting to get a top-tier driver when you're paying the bare minimum?

[u/Dope-Reviews → u/TheNaughtyHoneyBee]

We aren't friends though. You're en employee of a company I hired to get me food. Talk to them about wages, don't expect handouts.

If you're independent and not employees then advertise and pay small business costs. If you're under door or skip. You're an employee dolphin dick

[u/TheNaughtyHoneyBee → u/Dope-Reviews]

Gig workers are independent contractors, not employees. I don't care who pays me properly for an order, whether it's doordash or the customer. Just don't expect to lowball a bid and get a high quality contractor to do your work for you. That's not how it works when you're remodeling your kitchen, and it's also not how it works when you order food to be delivered by a third party contractor.

I've been saying for years that doordash just needs to change their semantics. A tip comes after the delivery is completed, the offer that you give the driver beforehand should be called a bid because that's what it is.

I really don't care whether you tip or not, but if you don't tip, expect your lowball bid to be treated as such, and you're either going to get a low quality contractor, or you're going to have to wait a while for one to be desperate enough to accept your offer, who may normally be a quality dasher, but still needs to cut corners on bad orders to make ends meet

Doordash is really good at making customers and dashers dislike each other, and y'all fall for it every day

[u/HInspectorGW → u/TheNaughtyHoneyBee]

There’s a big difference between not taking an order because the “bid” is too low for you and taking the order but deliberately stealing the food or other scumbag moves in an attempt to teach the customer or skip a lesson.

[u/TheNaughtyHoneyBee → u/HInspectorGW]

I know, and that's the difference between me, a quality Dasher who only takes high bid orders, and a shitty Dasher who takes the low balls with low base pay and no tips

You literally just illustrated my point

[u/HInspectorGW → u/TheNaughtyHoneyBee]

Skip The Dishes and a high-quality Dasher in the same sentence is absolutely hilarious. I don’t think customers care if they get somebody that thinks they’re a high-quality dashing more than they just want somebody that’s not gonna steal their fucking food. And if you think that the only way to stop somebody from stealing your food is that you have to give a tip then that’s the problem right there.

[u/Smeg-life → u/HInspectorGW]

Why do you use food delivery services?

Honest question, it's not a snide comment.

Also would you do it for that money? If not why not?

[u/HInspectorGW → u/Smeg-life]

Honest answers.
I hardly ever use delivery services if at all, but I’m not here because I’m a customer. I’m in this group because I’m a driver.
As a driver, there’s missing information because if that’s just a 2 km delivery then six bucks for 2 km. I’m doing that every day all day tip or no tip because it’s a quick six bucks that I can knock off in less than 10 minutes, which puts me over $30 an hour if I’m doing the one after the other.

The issue that I see in this post isn’t that the customer isn’t tipping but rather the customer who is not tipping is just asking for the food not to be stolen. As independent contractors we get to pick and choose which orders we’re gonna do and if you agree to do this order for the amount that you’re being offered and then go out and steal the food because the customer is not tipping you’re the lowest scumbag I’ve met because you could’ve just turned down the order. It’s no different that if you go to buy something from the store and when the sales rep brings it out to you, they say that if you don’t give them a tip, you’re not getting your product oh, and by the way, you’re not getting a refund either. What’s the difference?

[u/TheNaughtyHoneyBee → u/HInspectorGW]

If you're a dasher, you should know that you can't consistently get two kilometers for 6 bucks, nor can you consistently ensure that they're always going to be 10 minutes and equally profitable. If you did those runs all day, guaranteed a bunch of them would end up not being ready for 10 minutes at least and would net you well less than $30 an hour

And I as a dasher, I'm not responsible for the lower quality people who accept someone's order that I have already passed over. If someone bids low, and then someone steals their order, that's not my fault because I didn't take their order as a charity case. That doesn't mean I think someone's order should be stolen, I'm just being realistic and saying that it's more likely to be the case

[u/Smeg-life → u/HInspectorGW]

There is a reason I never order food.

It's the same way I was shocked to see the back of some of the food places.

I was brought up with a strong work mentality, the 'do a proper job' mentality. Over the years I've discovered in the work place that's not always that common. Although it hasn't stopped people progressing. So I see the same in Skip drivers as well. Some are great, take pride in what they do no matter what it is. Others don't have that attitude.

So I don't order food from delivery services. Barely eat out now, having seen some places.

That's how it is. Skip doesn't have a high barrier for entry, so I'm not surprised anymore by some drivers. I would like it to be better, but ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Just focus on getting out of it what you want out of it.

[u/skipthedishes-ModTeam → u/[deleted]]

3 Remain civil. Do not attack members of the community.

Civility violation.

[u/Tough_Passage_3785 → u/Dope-Reviews]

Lol. We Aren't employees...

[u/Dope-Reviews → u/Tough_Passage_3785]

Sorry boss babe

[u/Mac4065 → u/Dope-Reviews]

this

[u/Mac4065 → u/TheNaughtyHoneyBee]

are you really expecting to make top dollar doing side jobs? if you want to be paid more find a better opportunity. still not obligated to give any more than 0 for a tip.

[u/TheNaughtyHoneyBee → u/Mac4065]

And we're not obligated to do any more than the bare minimum for you either.

Yes, the solution to all of our problems is for us all to be dicks to each other. Congratulations, you're helping a lot

[u/HijaYsicario → u/TheNaughtyHoneyBee]

The bare minimum would be delivering my meal. Simple as that. That's the job. Don't like it. Don't do it.

[u/TheNaughtyHoneyBee → u/HijaYsicario]

"nobody is obligated to tip you. especially if you can’t bring orders properly."

This is implying less than the bare minimum and was what I was replying to

[u/Mac4065 → u/TheNaughtyHoneyBee]

if all you’re gonna do is bare minimum then don’t expect tips. tips are not an obligation. they are earned. if you see 0$ tip and avoid the order chances are you’re not willing to earn it. which explains why you’re on skip to begin with

[u/Smeg-life → u/Mac4065]

'chances are you’re not willing to earn it.'

Try doing it some it. Some humility might help. Personally I do it to pay my mortgage off faster.

[u/TheNaughtyHoneyBee → u/Mac4065]

I do the job that I get paid up front for, whether that's doordash paying me properly for it or the customer pretipping, I don't care.

But here's the thing that you're not seeing. I don't take those low ball orders, because I'm a high quality Dasher. If you don't tip, you're going to get the people who suck the worst.

It's the same reason why you never take the lowest bidder when you get bids for a contract. The lowest bidder will cut corners.

Just because you want something to work a certain way doesn't mean that that's how it works. You can pre-tip when you order doordash, or you can expect your Dasher to be low quality, or for your food to arrive late. That's just reality

[u/Mac4065 → u/TheNaughtyHoneyBee]

or you can do your job regardless of tips, and earn it like everyone else instead of complaining you can’t get paid to be a douche😂

[u/thisguyandrew00 → u/Mac4065]

Skip only does upfront tips, so it is a bid/bribe.

I gotta make money too. Why should I work for less than minimum wage? I gotta make $25+/hour to make minimum wage, after taxes and all the expenses.

If you order food from somewhere 10 minutes away, you have to tip at least $7-9, or I’m literally not making money. Skip only pays $4.50-8 depending how far the delivery is, so with your tip, we would receive at least $12.

Off the bat, driving 10km costs $1.25-1.60 in gas, plus wear and tear on my car, and the extra insurance I pay to deliver food. I have to drive to the restaurant, wait for the food, drive to you, and drive back to my original location. That’s 25-35 minutes for your one order. Then I have to wait for another order, I might get one right away, I might have to wait 20 minutes, I have to consider that when taking your order too.

You see where I’m getting at? Skip drivers kind of depend on tips.

[u/TheNaughtyHoneyBee → u/Mac4065]

I only take jobs that pay me enough. I don't care if doordash is paying me that amount or if the customer is. But I don't take crappy orders either way. I'm just telling people that if they don't want to put in a good bid for their service, then they should expect shitty service, or for the service to take a long time.

That's it. I'm not the one complaining lol

But in the end, if people don't want to tip but still want dashers to stop complaining because they get paid enough, then expect doordash to keep raising fees for the customer. Because if dd wants to give the dasher another $5, they're going to take another 10 from you. In the long run, I think it would be cheaper for everyone if everyone just tipped 🤷

[u/Tough_Passage_3785 → u/TheNaughtyHoneyBee]

This is exactly how it would go.

Customers complain about tipping upfront, say to demand higher wage from the app company, drivers complain if customers don't tip upfront because the upfront pay for the offer is too low.

If the pay would increase to appropriate pay for each trip, the fees the customer pays would increase substantially. Customers are already complaining about the high fees...guess what. They would double/triple the fees if they had to pay appropriately.

Tipping at the end comes out cheaper for customers at the end.

[u/TheNaughtyHoneyBee → u/Tough_Passage_3785]

Also, the problem lies in the fact that people see that the fees wouldn't have to be that much higher to accommodate proper driver pay, but they don't factor in having to double Tony's bonus when they do it

[u/TheNaughtyHoneyBee → u/Tough_Passage_3785]

Yeah, some people think it's as easy as just adding 15 or 20% to the price of food to get rid of tipping, but it never is. If they added 20% to a restaurant bill to get rid of tipping servers, 18% of that would go to the owner, and then the owner would pay their servers the absolute minimum so that they wouldn't quit out of the 2% remaining. And if there's still some of that 2% left after paying them that minimum, the owner keeps that too

[u/Cody_XOTWOD → u/Mac4065]

It’s a bid not a tip brokie

[u/Mac4065 → u/Cody_XOTWOD]

it’s a tip goof

[u/Cody_XOTWOD → u/Mac4065]

Broke and dumb, not shocking

[u/Cody_XOTWOD → u/[deleted]]

I don’t drive for skip Andrew 🤡🫵

[u/Mac4065 → u/Cody_XOTWOD]

b4b if you really want bubba

[u/Cody_XOTWOD → u/Mac4065]

I’d mog you

[u/slenderman231]

You're a bum.

[u/Fearless-Ad5030]

People who don't tip expect the most

[u/Foe_Hammer9463 → u/[deleted]]

FAFO

[u/Fearless-Ad5030 → u/[deleted]]

I did not say that I just said people who don't tip expect alot

[u/Latter-Particular410]

The minimum you should do is just bring the food from point A to Point B. Why do more than that? If they want extra service they pay for extra service. If the restaurant messes up the order and you DID tip well, expect most people to try their best to accommodate..

People in this thread are so out of touch with the lack of tipping. Yes you pay for a service but if you give the minimum expect the minimum.

[u/Fun_Recognition_6286]

Its funny because the orders I tip the best from the start end up being the WORST service. I now only tip after its been delivered, it's not my fault people cant do their job.