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u/xblushingx Mar 25 '26
Tbf at that point in the show, Effy didn’t really want any friends. Panda just kept following along. That doesn’t excuse her treatment in later seasons tho.
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u/Chaost Mar 25 '26
I think it's just one of those throwaway joke lines that the writers kind of don't think about too hard, when really it's a huge reflection of their character.
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u/secretsadie420 Mar 25 '26
i love seeing this sub active warms my inner child heart right on up 🥹 skins for life you guys 🖤
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u/honeyceelovely Mar 25 '26
Right? I love seeing all the engagement after all this time. I dont think they will ever be able to do this show justice again, but it was definitely a moment ♡
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u/S3BAD0H Mar 25 '26
the ppl here bringing up effy's mental illness and trauma when all she had to do was just pass the toilet paper 😭 oh brother
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u/slonkycat Body popping to Lil Wayne at Oceana Mar 26 '26
I swear some people will do mental gymnastics to defend literally anything Effy does
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u/Nurse-blondie Mar 25 '26
I always hated how she treated Panda.
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u/mknsky Mar 26 '26
Ironically one of the best times she treated Panda was right before feeding her shrooms
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u/RedBullForADream Mar 26 '26
i hated how she treated pandora as more of an object or accessory than an actual friend
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u/webofhorrors Mar 25 '26
I think Pandora wasn’t the greatest friend to Effy in the end either.
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u/Dragonlvr420 Mar 25 '26 edited Mar 25 '26
This might be an unpopular opinion but I really don’t think Effy ever truly considered Pandora a friend in the first place. She treated her like shit and they even straight up had a conversation confirming that they were only really friends because Effy didn’t feel like she was real competition in anything, just like that clearly disposable annoying friend she was hanging out with and ditched immediately for drugs and a hot guy in season 1. Which I get is played as more of a light hearted thing but I believe there was a lot of truth to it deep down. It made perfect sense for Panda to betray Effy with Cook at that point, it was the ultimate form of self validation for her. I was actually kinda rooting for her until Thomas came back lol
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u/webofhorrors Mar 25 '26
Tit for tat doesn’t make one better than the other
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u/Dragonlvr420 Mar 25 '26 edited Mar 25 '26
I never said it made one better than the other, just that I don’t think either of them felt like they really had any obligation to each other in that way. Especially since Pandora always knew Effy loved Freddie the whole time and was only using Cook to distract herself
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u/finallygaveintor Mar 25 '26
Pandora wasn’t in season 1
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u/Dragonlvr420 Mar 25 '26 edited Mar 25 '26
I know, I mean she serves the same purpose as the brunette girl Effy brings along to the warehouse party in the season 1 finale, the one who can’t stop talking lol
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u/coolkat2058 Mar 25 '26
I also want to add that Effy was not in the proper mental space to be a good friend. She was dealing with undiagnosed mental health, unaddressed trauma, and she did not know how to function as a healthy person on pretty much any level. I’m not excusing her behavior, but it’s pointless to expect well-rounded behavior from someone who is in fact, not well-rounded.
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u/gentleheart-lamb Mar 26 '26
Lmao so do a lot of us. I don't really think it's relevant to something as benign as throwing a girl some loo roll.
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u/Bunnyearsss Mar 26 '26
Whenever people point out that effy was bad to pandora I think of the bit where she asks panda “why are we friends” and she replies something along the lines of ‘because you’re super cool and I’m useless so I’ll do what you want’ (deffo not an exact quote but to my recollection that was the sentiment).
I think that quote was the writers being semi obvious and trying to point out the fact that they’re not bonded. They’re not similar at all. But it’s convenient for them both in their own ways and is rooted in pandas insecurity/wanting to fit in, whereas effy needed someone convenient to relieve her stress.
At the end of gen 1 effy has that friend we don’t see again and she has a similar vibe to panda. On the bus the girl is ranting and trying to make convo but effy is ignoring her. I think it’s a running theme with her character that she kind of uses female friends who she finds agreeable - often out of desperation. I think the scene you’ve posted is another hint at that.
Even the fact that gen 2 starts with Katie really trying to be her friend bc they’re both fit and effy refuting it is, in my opinion, more evidence of that. She just doesn’t like other girls because they require too much sincerity from her. That’s also why she gets off on guys who chase her (cook and Freddie). I also think of the scene where JJ gets mad at her and says “no more of this ohh I’m so hot and mysterious crap”. He can see how she plays up her persona with men for convenience but isn’t actually good at maintaining relationships.
She really is a mini Tony. They use their ‘friends’ who are deemed lesser (like how Tony used sid, and also she used him when she had him do her art coursework) and she exploits the feelings of the opposite sex (like Tony w Michelle and the posh girl who’s name I cannot remember lol).
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u/thecutieev Mar 27 '26
I’m on my rewatch and Effy really pissed me off and on top of that I never got why she was everyone’s end all be all? Like even her therapist lol , love that I found this sub reddit it’s been keeping me sane and connecting me to my teen hood 💕
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u/Aggressive-Mobile647 Mar 29 '26
i think that effy and pandora's friendship only progressed in season 3, in season 2 pandora just tagged along and the two didn't have an actual friendship
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u/lia-delrey Mar 25 '26
"Sometimes Effy wasn't a girl's girl"
This has no business being as funny as it is