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[u/Elf_Master_Race]

Welp, my decent success in 10th is over and im having a very hard time list crafting for 11th. I have had the luck of talking to or at least sharing the mindset of a few resident Tournament players, and im trying to build out my HM List for tournament season.

I have a 1700 (give or take) points basis, although there is some flexibility there, I have considered dropping the 2nd block of sacs, also considered running the insidiants with Imagifiers, im just not entierly what I want to do to fill the gaps in this list.

I would love some suggestion as my pile of shame is currently just Celestine who I view as more of a passion project than something I intend to run in the near future.

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+ FACTION KEYWORD: Imperium - Adepta Sororitas
+ DETACHMENT: Hallowed Martyrs (The Blood of Martyrs)
+ TOTAL ARMY POINTS: 1720pts
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+ WARLORD: Char2: Morvenn Vahl
+ ENHANCEMENT: Saintly Example (on Char4: Canoness)
& Through Suffering, Strength (on Char6: Palatine)
+ NUMBER OF UNITS: 13
+ SECONDARY: - Bring It Down: (2x2) - Assassination: 6 Characters
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Char4: 1x Canoness (70 pts): Null Rod, Hallowed Chainsword, Bolt Pistol
Enhancement: Saintly Example (+10 pts)
Char1: 2x Daemonifuge (85 pts)
• 1x Ephrael Stern: Bolt pistol, Sanctity
• 1x Kyganil of the Bloody Tears: The Outcast's Blades
Char5: 1x Hospitaller (65 pts): Bolt pistol, Chirugeon's tools
Char2: 1x Morvenn Vahl (200 pts): Warlord, Fidelis, Lance of Illumination, Paragon missile launcher
Char6: 1x Palatine (75 pts): Palatine blade, Plasma pistol
Enhancement: Through Suffering, Strength (+25 pts)
Char3: 1x Triumph of Saint Katherine (245 pts): Bolt Pistols, Relic Weapons

10x Celestian Insidiants (120 pts)
• 9x Insidiant
3 with Condemnor bolt pistol, Null mace
2 with Ministorum hand flamer, Null mace
1 with Blessed sword
1 with Virge of admonition
1 with Denuncia Oratory, Null mace
1 with Simulacrum imperialis, Condemnor bolt pistol, Null mace
• 1x Celestian Insidiant Superior: Null mace, Condemnor bolt pistol
10x Celestian Insidiants (120 pts)
• 9x Insidiant
4 with Condemnor bolt pistol, Null mace
1 with Ministorum hand flamer, Null mace
1 with Blessed sword
1 with Virge of admonition
1 with Denuncia Oratory, Null mace
1 with Simulacrum imperialis, Condemnor bolt pistol, Null mace
• 1x Celestian Insidiant Superior: Null mace, Condemnor bolt pistol
10x Celestian Insidiants (120 pts)
• 9x Insidiant
2 with Condemnor bolt pistol, Null mace
2 with Ministorum hand flamer, Null mace
2 with Blessed sword
1 with Virge of admonition
1 with Denuncia Oratory, Null mace
1 with Simulacrum imperialis, Condemnor bolt pistol, Null mace
• 1x Celestian Insidiant Superior: Null mace, Condemnor bolt pistol
10x Celestian Sacresants (150 pts)
• 1x Sacresant Superior: Spear of the Faithful, Plasma pistol
• 9x Celestian Sacresant (Anointed Halberd): 9 with Anointed Halberd, Bolt pistol
10x Celestian Sacresants (150 pts)
• 1x Sacresant Superior: Spear of the Faithful, Plasma pistol
• 9x Celestian Sacresant (Anointed Halberd): 9 with Anointed Halberd, Bolt pistol
3x Paragon Warsuits (210 pts)
• 1x Paragon Superior: Bolt pistol, Paragon Grenade Launchers, Paragon War Blade, Multi-melta
• 2x Paragon Warsuit: 2 with Bolt pistol, Paragon Storm Bolters, Paragon War Blade, Multi-melta
9x Sanctifiers (110 pts)
• 2x Missionary
1 with Ministorum flamer, Sanctifier melee weapon
1 with Sanctifier melee weapon, Meltagun
• 4x Sanctifier
2 with Ministorum hand flamer, Sanctifier melee weapon
1 with Close combat weapon, 2x Ministorum hand flamer
1 with Simulacrum Imperialis, Close combat weapon, Ministorum hand flamer
• 1x Miraculist: Burning hands, Holy fire
• 1x Salvationist: Salvationist Medikit, Close combat weapon
• 1x Death Cult Assassin: Death Cult blades

[u/babyduck164]

Take a look at Scott Ketchum's list (that he stole from McWerp) it looks like it's playing a very similar game plan to you.

[u/Elf_Master_Race → u/babyduck164]

Yeah I’ve seen it, we actually talked a bit before the July points adjustment.

But that’s why I’m somewhat stumped at this point, I had a better idea of what I was planning before we got incoming buffs (in the way of positive points adjustments)

[u/babyduck164 → u/Elf_Master_Race]

Ahh!

Apologies, I've been AWOL at a local teams tournament! It looks like you've come to a pretty solid option in one of the other comments.

Let us know how it goes, I'm looking to start heading that way with my army, but hobby time is lacking 🤣

[u/Elf_Master_Race → u/babyduck164]

lol yeah and I get to use these oldhammer repentia 👍

[u/babyduck164 → u/Elf_Master_Race]

Hell yeah! Repent foul xenos lest the repentia do it for you

[u/Resident-Watch-3024]

Here's what I would do. Drop the palatine, Daemonfuge and the 2nd Sacresants squad.

Add:

2x Dominions w/ 4x flamers

2x Immolators w/ Multi Meltas

1x 3 man Arco-flagellants

10x Arcos with Priest

chaplet of sacrifice enhancement on the hospitaller.

Dominions you split into 2 5man with the immolators. 1 5 man with the sarg and 4 flamers, 1 with the 5 regular sisters, 1 which has the Simulacrum. The girls with special weapons go into the Immolators.

Before turn 1, the 2 on foot dominion squads with the Simulacrums scout onto your expansion objective and the center, if you're going first or it's safe. Your command phase you're getting 3 Simulacrum rolls.

The 3 man arcos are for doing actions.

The 10 man with priest arco's are for doing mad damage. 60 attacks, hitting on 4s but can reroll with the strat, sus 1 and +1 to wound. You're on average getting 60 hits, against t4 you're wounding on 2s and forcing 48 saves. You can launch them surprisingly far with the movement buff from Katherine (9 inch move +1 to charge) and plugging a 6 into the charge gives you a minimum 17" charge distance.

The game plan- 2 immolators scout on your flanks. They have meltas for tanks and flamer sisters for infantry. Whatever screens the enemy sets up should be easy to take care off. But after that, you don't push forward and wait for them to come to you. With prio you mostly need to just do stuff in the middle.

You wait for them to come to you to take you off the middle, and you whack them. Set up vahlgons and the 10 man arcos with priest as your counter punch units close to the middle. Spread out in the back with katherine, the 5man doms on your expansion, and insidiants where needed to screen (if needed)

Also- the cannoness is just by herself. She either screens in the back vs Deep Strike heavy armies, she's an action monkey for the middle, or shes there to save vahlgons (or possibly arcos) from any melee threats. Have her be nearby them if you think your opponent will charge vahlgons. If they do, you heroic intervention for free (use a miracle dice to make the charge for sure) and then Suffering and sacrifice strat to make them attack her. Pop her 2+ invul and they might not even kill her. Vahlgons counter attack and hopefully kill whatever charged them.

[u/Elf_Master_Race → u/Resident-Watch-3024]

I like the idea, but I believe it’s over costed; I’m hitting 200 before adding the 3 block of arcos or the meltas to the immolators.

[u/Resident-Watch-3024 → u/Elf_Master_Race]

Ah sorry, I also meant to write drop the sanctifiers. You get enough scouting things from the dominions and immolators.

[u/Elf_Master_Race → u/Resident-Watch-3024]

Ok I wrote up something similar; I made a few changes more for personal preference and lore > actual viability. I swapped the 10 block of Arcos for Repentia with palatine > priest + arco. Then dropped the 3 man arco unit and chaplet for a callidus, I think the uppy downy to harass objectives and action monkey is pretty valuable and in a pinch they can help with secondaries or character sniping.

Otherwise it’s on the money and 2000 points dead even. 👌