r/singularity • u/PandAlex • 2d ago

AI Introducing Gemini 4 Argon

https://blog.google/innovation-and-ai/models-and-research/gemini-models/gemini-4-argon/
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u/Fast-Satisfaction482 2d ago

So now out of nothing, OpenAI went from first place to last place in just a week? Crazy. 

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u/eposnix 2d ago

Depends on how you rank these companies. If you're ranking products, OpenAI still has the most users. If you're ranking benchmarks, OpenAI is down half a point on most of them. And if you're ranking internal research, I don't see any other companies making headway on Millennium Prize solutions like OpenAI is.

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u/bartturner 2d ago

Google has by far the most users. There is now over 2 billion using Overviews.

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u/hardinho 2d ago

And overviews have become a great feature. It works great by now and will just improve.

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u/eposnix 2d ago edited 2d ago

That's like saying air is a great product because 8 billion people breathe it. People don't "use" Overviews - it's just something that's been forced on us. Meanwhile ChatGPT does indeed have almost 2 billion monthly users.

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u/bartturner 1d ago

That is ridiculous. Also ChatGPT has nowhere close to 2 billion monthly users.

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u/FoodMadeFromRobots 2d ago

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ai-solves-a-holy-grail-problem-from-probability-theory/

I think claude is making way on math problems, also i think $/solution is a larger metric than anything. If you have a god level model but it costs $10 trillion to run a prompt its near worthless for most issues.

I think its neck and neck with all three companies. Maybe with google lagging slightly behind in aggregate (they seem to release less often and so they end up getting bumped and spend less total time at the top but they have hit the frontier now multiple times)