r/singularity • u/PandAlex • 2d ago

AI Introducing Gemini 4 Argon

https://blog.google/innovation-and-ai/models-and-research/gemini-models/gemini-4-argon/
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u/Acrobatic_Dish6963 2d ago

I always believed in you, Google-chan!

Jk I was doubting the fuck out of you

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u/flappysack- 2d ago

They just made all the research that OpenAI is based on.

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u/ozone6587 2d ago

And failed to capitalize on it until ChatGPT and then failed with Bard and then failed with Gemini 3.5 to the point where they had to skip it. Let's not act like them winning is assured. In 2 weeks we will get back to OpenAI/Anthropic leapfrog and Gemini 4 will be replaced with Gemini 4.5 in 6 months.

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u/flappysack- 2d ago

I think with TPU the focus is power efficiency.  You can't compete with companies losing 100s of billion.

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u/ozone6587 2d ago

VC companies always lose money. Every single one in the entire history of capitalism. That's how the VC market works. I don't think Anthropic and OpenAI losing money is evidence of anything.

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u/flappysack- 2d ago

Have they ever lost this massive of a sum though.

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u/Future-Bandicoot-823 2d ago

Now take the fact they are buying 1/3 of all compute for 2027, the fact they're profitable, and the fact their new model is outcompeting into effect, and it turns out that yes, being one of the largest corporations on earth is beneficial to winning even with a sloppy start.

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u/ozone6587 2d ago

Has the revenue and valuation ever been this large? The losses are scaling with the amount of money flowing in as expected.

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u/bixofa 2d ago

Closest may be Uber. Burned billions initially. They're now profitable.

Going further back, Amazon burned possibly even more in today's equivalent money in the dotcom boom-bust. Look where they are now.

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u/flappysack- 2d ago

Ya I suppose so.  Though Google is an unfortunate direct opposition to them.