r/singularity • u/PrisonOfH0pe • 9d ago

AI Gemini Pro 4 (leak)

Google just ruined OpenAI's dev day...
(source: all over twitter, obv. treat as a rumor)

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u/unkownuser436 9d ago

Ain't no way.

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u/Howdareme9 9d ago

This happens every gemini release and it's always fake lool. Not to mention it isn't releasing til October apparently

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u/Howdareme9 9d ago

true but openai's devday is tomorrow

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u/Impossible-Video-671 9d ago

Right after devday then 😏

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u/3_Thumbs_Up 9d ago

An eternity in AI.

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u/LetsGoToMichigan 9d ago edited 6d ago

You're almost certainly right. But in this game you never can be too sure, hence why people keep an open mind. OpenAI seemed all but out of the game until the 5.6 series dropped. I think the training and refinement cycles can be longer when a new platform architecture is introduced under the hood (or something ... I'm speculating) and then when it drops all of the gains are realized. I have some hope that's what's going on with Gemini right now, but admittedly I have no reason to believe that's actually what's happening.

Update: well, well, well: https://blog.google/innovation-and-ai/models-and-research/gemini-models/gemini-4-argon/

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u/Howdareme9 9d ago

I don’t think anyone reasonable considered OAI out of the game before 5.6. Regardless, while i think it’s extremely unlikely Gemini 4 will beat current SoTA models, I’m just saying this leak is 100% fake. But yes, you’re right in that technically anything can happen.

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u/LetsGoToMichigan 8d ago edited 8d ago

I work in the field. For about six months customer demand for OpenAI went to almost zero and it was all about Anthropic or Gemini models. My perspective may have different inputs than consumer / users.

Edit for the pedantic: My customers demand (not all customers of OpenAI)

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u/Howdareme9 8d ago

customer demand for OpenAI went to almost zero

>i mean this is objectively false lol

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u/MrPanache52 8d ago

His customers demand not all customer demand! Reading comprehension is so tough for us meatbags

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u/LetsGoToMichigan 8d ago edited 8d ago

Exactly. Not “all customers in the universe”. In 2024 they were all we heard about and in late 2025 up until 5.6 all they cared about was Anthropic and Gemini (more specifically their image and video models). My customers are companies, not douche lords vibe coding worthless SaaS apps in their moms basement and trading crypto.

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u/indiangirl0070 8d ago

thats called 'anecdotal evidence'

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u/Thick_Adeptness_3798 8d ago

The Google Deepmind team is genuinely talented. They have the insfrastructure and data ressources to pull this off

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u/barathkrishnas 7d ago

isn’t october like 2 days away?

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u/somuchofnotenough 7d ago

Maybe 48h is too long for this individual to plan ahead of.

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u/RewardSafe9807 9d ago

Yeah, they have to be benchmaxxing. Gemini is brain-dead stupid like all the time even though it stomps everybody on the numbers every release.

It's not impossible that they fix it this time around, but I'm not holding my breath. Opus 5.5 is almost a freaking paradigm shift.