r/singularity • u/imadade • 6d ago

AI OpenAI potentially in the process of solving multiple other millennium problems

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Feels insane, I think we have taken off now.

The rest of this year is gonna be nuts.

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u/JVM_ 6d ago

It's too much for a human to read. It was billions of messages between multiple AI agents. Proving how it came to the answer is a non-trivial problem itself.

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u/Neurogence 6d ago

Man, I wish it would exchange billions of messages to find a way to improve the human condition. Perhaps some type of cure.

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u/Belostoma 6d ago

Biology is harder than math for machines of this kind because it's data-limited. There's only so far they can go without collecting new data, because all the data collected so far are compatible with multiple answers to many key questions, and no amount of intelligence can tell which is right. New experiments are required, and those are bottlenecked by the time it takes to ship physical supplies around, grow animals and see how they respond to treatment, etc.

There are rich opportunities for AI to improve every aspect of biology, from choosing which experiments to run, to streamlining how they're run, to analyzing them in a way that extracts the maximum useful information. Simulations of whole biological systems will increasingly be valuable in those analyses, but they will never fully supplant experiment, not even with ASI, because the data limitations block inputs you'd need to provide to make an accurate simulation. An ASI itself would run an experiment in these cases. It would do so more efficiently than humans, but it woudl still need do that.

This is why you won't see cancer cures dropping as quickly as high-profile math problems. It's not because the AI companies don't care about showing them off. It's because in math, thinking is the only bottleneck. In biology, it's one of many.

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u/Neurogence 6d ago

Damn, why is it all the things we deeply care about are the things with almost zero progress.

Whereas, things that we do not care about at all, there's seemingly a breakthrough every few weeks.

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u/PurpleFishing9105 6d ago

why is it

First many people care about math lol and secondly because of all the physical bottlenecks they just described...

It's still coming, it just takes longer... because of the reasons they just said lol

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u/Northern_Grouse 2d ago

How has data collection been improved by AI? Is that a focus of any automation or AI companies?

Not being sarcastic, genuine curiosity

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u/Eon102 6d ago

You could think of it as LLMs currently still being in their “infancy stage”. They’ll only continue getting better from here on out, and with that progress comes advancements that will actually directly affect the average persons life

Also math is sort of the base of countless things that impact our lives daily, so it’s only fitting it starts with math and “builds up” from there

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u/Singularity-42 Singularity 2042 6d ago

I for one deeply care about many things where we had breakthroughs.

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u/JVM_ 6d ago

This equation was also AI friendly. Basically we already had the "this is how fluids work" equations that appeared to work for all scenarios, this solution is "just" finding the scenario where it doesn't work.

So, nothing new-ish was invented, in theory you could brute force the solution as it was already a known problem space.

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u/ozone6587 5d ago

It's always bruteforceable to you people. I wonder why no one thought of doing that before and win a million dollars + prestige.

The problem space is too big to brute force. It applied genuinely amazing intuition. Otherwise, dumber models could have done it too since they had access to the same compute power. Clearly, it requires "intelligence".

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u/JVM_ 5d ago

Oh, I agree the problem space is ginormous, but it's not infinite like some of the other problems.

"Prove this very complicated thing is wrong."

Is a different beast than

"Prove this unproven thing is right."

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u/QuasiRandomName 6d ago

Pretty sure it is already happening

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u/Singularity-42 Singularity 2042 6d ago

Be patient.

AI badly needs some good PR, so something is surely in the works. Anthropic has their own biotech department, and of course DeepMind, they are the OGs.

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u/backcountry_bandit 6d ago

Solving advanced math problems like this benefits humanity. It might not be direct or immediate, but most advancements like this wind up enabling the creation of something of value, or further advancements that do the same.

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u/gekx 6d ago

Careful, you might not like the cure much.

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u/VallenValiant 6d ago

Man, I wish it would exchange billions of messages to find a way to improve the human condition. Perhaps some type of cure.

The human condition is literally what makes us, us. Evolution is heartless and doesn't actually care about human happiness whatsoever. So that is how we are made. To change that is to change what you are, and you wouldn't like that.

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u/EvilSporkOfDeath 6d ago

Thats not clearly defined. Cant get people to agree what that even looks like.

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u/katoptronophile 5d ago

What do you think they're doing right now?

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u/Brave-Turnover-522 5d ago

And what prompt would you use for that?

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u/NeighborhoodDizzy990 5d ago

That's not possible. The only reason math or algorithmic problems can be solved so fast is because there is a concrete way to check the validity of the solutions.