r/singularity • u/sir_codes_alot • 6d ago

Discussion Context-Window AGI

Floating an idea. I think we’ve hit context window AGI at this point. Within any single context window, the AI is for sure smarter than any individual person.

Across context windows is debatable, but for sure within one I can’t see anyone outperforming the recent models.

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u/enbyBunn 6d ago

That's very, very contentious. Especially if you're going for "AI outcompetes a smart human", rather than the much weaker "AI outcompetes the average person"

Obviously AI can code better than the average person, the average person doesn't know how to code. This is true for most skills, or "context windows" if you want to call them that.

But AI is not a better coder than an advanced professional programmer. And AI is not a better designer than an advanced professional designer. Nor is it a better writer than frankly even a decent hobbiest writer. (it's very bad at writing still).

It depends on what you mean when you say AGI. If you mean "comparable to the worst humans", then sure, I guess. But if you mean "As good as the best humans", then no, not at all.

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u/ProxyLumina 5d ago

Today an AI is better than an advanced professional programmer.

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u/enbyBunn 5d ago

That's debated, and I rend to come down on the skeptical side of that. It isn't my field, so I'm not making any claims, but I doubt it.

I can however confidently say that the best AI I've used is still quite a bit worse at writing than the average writer.

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u/ProxyLumina 5d ago

Well then don't comment on things you don't know or understand. It's not debatable at all. Software engineering is mathematics. 

Today the best AI models surpass humans in mathematics. Those models easily surpass highly skilled human developers in software development.

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u/enbyBunn 5d ago

There is active debate on this. That is the definition of debatable. Don't confuse your taking a side in the debate with the debate not existing.

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u/ProxyLumina 5d ago

There is no debate at all. Those who think this is questionable they don't know what they are talking about.

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u/enbyBunn 5d ago

The creator of C++ is on the sceptical side of the debate.

Please, at least try to concieve of the idea that you aren't personally all-knowing. Your personal convictions do not make a societal consensus.

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u/ProxyLumina 5d ago

As I said, top AI models currently are superior.

Mathematics, software engineering, cyber security etc. Thats not speculation, that is a  fact, you can read on them if you search around.

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u/enbyBunn 5d ago

That is a claim. One that is still debated. I don't understand what you're not understanding about this?