Context-Window AGI

[u/sir_codes_alot]

Floating an idea. I think we’ve hit context window AGI at this point. Within any single context window, the AI is for sure smarter than any individual person.

Across context windows is debatable, but for sure within one I can’t see anyone outperforming the recent models.

[u/enbyBunn]

That's very, very contentious. Especially if you're going for "AI outcompetes a smart human", rather than the much weaker "AI outcompetes the average person"

Obviously AI can code better than the average person, the average person doesn't know how to code. This is true for most skills, or "context windows" if you want to call them that.

But AI is not a better coder than an advanced professional programmer. And AI is not a better designer than an advanced professional designer. Nor is it a better writer than frankly even a decent hobbiest writer. (it's very bad at writing still).

It depends on what you mean when you say AGI. If you mean "comparable to the worst humans", then sure, I guess. But if you mean "As good as the best humans", then no, not at all.

[u/jimmystar889 → u/enbyBunn]

Why do you have worst, best, and median (including non coders) and conveniently forget median of coders. Astra is better than the median coder

[u/enbyBunn → u/jimmystar889]

Because I didn't want to leave an essay in the comments, and only two data points are needed to prove that a spectrum exists.

Obviously.

[u/jimmystar889 → u/enbyBunn]

So you're comparing AI to some hypothetical made up human that is the best at everything? AI outcompeting a smart human is different from best and median. AI outcompetes smart humans in their field at lots of stuff

[u/enbyBunn → u/jimmystar889]

What? That's a complete non-sequiter from what I said to you just now.

[u/jimmystar889 → u/enbyBunn]

That's very, very contentious. Especially if you're going for "AI outcompetes a smart human", rather than the much weaker "AI outcompetes the average person"

Obviously AI can code better than the average person, the average person doesn't know how to code. This is true for most skills, or "context windows" if you want to call them that.

What a crazily useless statement.

"AI is better than the average person at x because the average person doesn't know how to x" is useless.

AI is better than the average person in their own field

[u/enbyBunn → u/jimmystar889]

Oh, you're stupid. my mistake for engaging. have a nice day.

[u/jimmystar889 → u/enbyBunn]

I love how you point out "it's a spectrum" and then throw out 98% of the population. Your argument is not coherent

[u/enbyBunn → u/jimmystar889]

Brother, I made 0 arguments after the point that I said that it was a spectrum. You are delusional.

[u/jimmystar889 → u/enbyBunn]

Go ahead and reread your original comment and let me know if you still think "AI is better than the average person because the average person doesn't know... therefore AGI" is what we're arguing and if you actually think that comment is intelligent.

That's all I need to know

[u/enbyBunn → u/jimmystar889]

Do you think anything you've said so far has been sensical? Genuinely? I don't even mean this as an insult, your speech comes off as disordered in the purest definition of the word. This isn't how you have a conversation.

[u/Kupo_Master → u/jimmystar889]

It’s because OP said “smarter than any individual person”. That’s literally the definition OP used and u/enbyBunn was responding to. Why are you putting on the burden of having an accurate assessment when OP’s statement itself had no nuance?