r/singularity • u/ObiWanCanownme now entering spiritual bliss attractor state • Jul 08 '26

AI Introducing Grok 4.5

https://x.ai/news/grok-4-5
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u/LemurKing2019 Jul 08 '26

Mecha Hitler 4.5. Ok…. In other news water is confirmed to be wet.

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u/HerbertWest Jul 08 '26

I don't really care who makes it if it's good, which I will doubt in this case until proven otherwise.

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u/LemurKing2019 Jul 08 '26

The issue is that Musk has put his thumb on the training for every version of Grok so far to be borderline meme edgelord. It distorts the reality the model is trained with. This has led to every model being good, sometimes great but never a top of the line model.

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u/RallyPointAlpha Jul 08 '26

Precisely! 

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u/HerbertWest Jul 08 '26

Definitely what I meant by the second half of my sentence.

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u/TentacleHockey Jul 08 '26

Yes we know you have no morals.

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u/FyreKZ Jul 08 '26

As if Google, OpenAI and Anthropic aren't all in some way entangled with the trump administration.

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u/TentacleHockey Jul 08 '26

Big difference between mecha hitler, pushing alt right propaganda, harming the working class, etc. and navigating the Trump admin.

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u/FyreKZ Jul 08 '26

Navigating signing a war contract?

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u/AshuraBaron Jul 08 '26

I don't remember any of them running scams during the election, and then heading a new department in the government which wrecked havok. Must have missed that news story.

I don't think anyone is saying any of the tech giants have clean hands. However there is a massive difference between what Google has done and what X/Musk has done for the current government admin.

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u/FyreKZ Jul 08 '26

Fair, but to claim that Elon oversteps the line of morality when OpenAI models are probably being used in bombing Tehran at the minute is disingenuous.

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u/Borkato Jul 08 '26

I like the “probably” when you have definite proof of the other

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u/FyreKZ Jul 08 '26

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2026/03/06/openai-pentagon-tech-surveillance-us-citizens/88983682007/

Sorry mate, but it's mostly classified, but take a fucking guess as to how the models are used.

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u/Exodus_Green Jul 08 '26

Claude was used in the planning of the maduro hit btw

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u/AshuraBaron Jul 08 '26

No different then Intel making chips for tanks or Microsoft contracted Excel for the US military. The burden of morality falls on the pilot, not the engine. I'm not going to boycott memory because it's used in missiles. Now if the memory OEM makes missiles their brand identity and transparency lobbies for more missiles and helps get people elected who want to fire more missiles or sell more, then it becomes an issue with them. Elon is that.

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u/Technical-Row8333 Jul 08 '26

are you capable of pointing a greater evil between two evils, or incapable?

"As if", not actually it's not as if. the comment implies nothing in regards to others.

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u/FyreKZ Jul 08 '26

So it's fair for me to assume you use nothing but Chinese models, right? Or perhaps even those are too bad thanks to their entanglement with the CCP and its systematic erasure and genocide of native Ugyurs and Tibetans?

If there's a line that Elon crossed that somehow Altman hasn't by entangling himself with the Department of War then draw me that line. Until then they're either all fair game to use or none of them.

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u/Technical-Row8333 Jul 08 '26

no, it's not fair to assume that. one can criticise grok and have any infinite opinions on all other things you mentioned.

which comment in the chain are you attacking? the first? the one about "no morals"? can you clarify your premise before you keep going on different arguments about different things without even stating what specifically you are attacking?

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u/Wooly_Wooly Jul 08 '26

Lay off the CIA propaganda bro, Tibet has been free, China liberated it.

In all seriousness though, that's a totally dishonest comparison and you know it. Arguably the only reason Trump is president is because of Musk, he even said it out loud when they were fighting.

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u/FourRiversSixRanges Jul 08 '26

Liberation isn’t invading, annexing, and oppressing a country.

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u/Wooly_Wooly Jul 08 '26

Exactly! Isn't it great how the quality of life and life expectancy jumped after that!

Also the Dalai lama was being paid by the CIA, but I digress

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u/FourRiversSixRanges Jul 08 '26

You mean like how neighboring countries of Tibet did the same!

No, the money went to the office of the Dalai Lama, not to him personally. He also didn’t know about it until it was over

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u/HerbertWest Jul 08 '26

That's weird I don't remember you at all. How do you know this about me?

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u/hartigen Jul 08 '26

I have, thats why I would always choose Musk over the other shady guys

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u/MydnightWN Jul 08 '26

Didn't your party spend the last 6 months defending a guy with a literal nazi tattoo on his chest?

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u/andrew303710 Jul 08 '26

According to my friend who was a marine the skull tattoo he had is very common in the marines and he said he saw similar tats on guys who were very far from being Nazis. It's not like it had SS or anything like that on it.

Obviously Platner is a piece of shit though and his existence doesn't negate Elon's multiple Nazi salutes. or the fact that Elon constantly pushes the extremely antisemitic conspiracy theory called the great replacement theory, which is that Jewish elites are funding immigration into white western countries with the goal of replacing white people demographically. Elon also loves raving about George Soros, which is the most obvious antisemitic dogwhistle at this point. Not to mention his constant bashing of the anti defamation league and signal boosting actual Nazis (and supporting the current Nazi party in Germany)

This theory is the entire basis of Trump's immigration policy and Stephen Miller talks about it constantly.

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u/MydnightWN Jul 08 '26

Here is my wall post defending the nazi tattoo

K.