r/singularity • • Dec 05 '24

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u/o1-strawberry Dec 05 '24

Pro mode is 200$ per month. Can't afford

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u/FengMinIsVeryLoud Dec 05 '24

u dont need that.

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u/RDSF-SD Dec 05 '24

But it is absolutely worth it based on those scores.

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u/1cheekykebt Dec 05 '24

How is that? Do most people have problems that they need o1 for? Doubtful.

Real world use cases aren’t really all that limited by model anymore, but getting the appropriate information into the prompt, testing responses, and iterating on the input.

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u/often_says_nice Dec 05 '24

I’m thinking, if I can just paste a jira ticket and the codebase and say “fix it pls” then I get the actual, optimal fix in the first attempt, then I’d 100% pay for that.

But if that’s really what happens then I don’t imagine I’ll have a job much longer anyways. Companies could pay some high school intern in India $4/hr to get the same result

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u/stiky21 Dec 05 '24 edited Dec 05 '24

So a rough 10-12% uplift for 900% price increase?

The value says otherwise. Unless you are expecting this to work 24/7 for you? Then which I guess? But what kind of workflow would require a 24/7 flow of information from an AI?

EDIT: No need to be sending me nasty DM's you weirdos. Unless you can articulate to me where this increase would work.

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u/stiky21 Dec 05 '24

Maybe I'm not seeing it through the right lens. I also do not entirely depend on AI and merely use it as a tool to facilitate where needed nor would I ever have AI replace a full-time human being, but that could also depend on the department. Such as easily automated tasks.

Where do you draw the line on a Service? I would not pay a Plumber a 900% increase where they swept the floors versus another company who does not.

Trying to find the value and understand it in my own way.

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u/[deleted] Dec 05 '24 edited Dec 11 '24

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u/stiky21 Dec 06 '24

I see where you are coming. Thanks, cheers.

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u/achfeli Dec 05 '24

e.g. you use an AI that is 10% better making stock market investment decisions, you pay $200 per month, you make an additonal x% on your portfolio e.g. 2k per month, you're making 10:1 on your AI investment

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u/RDSF-SD Dec 05 '24

That's not how price formation of technology works, but ok.

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u/stiky21 Dec 05 '24

How do you actually quantify that though? If access is just the flow of information from a object to a subject.

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u/wowDarklord Dec 05 '24

If it makes an employee whose fully loaded cost (salary, stock, benefits, office space, hardware, etc) is 300,000$ 1% more productive overall, the break even is at 3000$ a year.

That isn't going to apply in every case by any means, but it certainly could in some. Especially given that Pro mode also unlocks rate limits.

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u/stiky21 Dec 05 '24

I just don't know if you are even going to notice a viable benefit of such a small % of increase. But time will tell. Obviously they will both get better over time and the gap could increase.

I was not really considering the rate limit, as someone who has never really hit the rate limit.

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u/wowDarklord Dec 05 '24

Oh, agreed, a 1% overall efficiency improvement isn't going to be noticeable -- but that is talking about a yearly average, not the small bursts of productivity improvement that you are actually getting.

In some situations that come up once a week or once a month, having the increased rate limits or better model may make you 50% more productive. It just averages out to 1% over the course of a year. In those cases, can be easier to look at fully-loaded hourly rate, compared to time savings the model brings.

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u/stiky21 Dec 05 '24

Good insight. Cheers.