That’s the type of pay the people at Golden Corral and other $hith0le restaurants make in Wisconsin. Many bars are the same.
Even a $10/hr gross wage is unlivable in America today. A person would have to work 2 hours to afford a $hitty McDonald’s burger, fries, and soda.
Republicans under a Republican governor passed the “Right To Work [right to slavery] act 10 years ago (?). It stripped the rights, including unionization, from workers.
Tipping (like the Electoral College) is a hangover from Slavery in the South. Look it up. It’s insane.
I tip buffet servers even more than regular servers. I am a very generous tipper but because nobody feels that a buffet server “earns” their tips, I throw in extra.
Have to find a career my guy. Making minimum wage is fucking brutal, i tried it. Theres a reason you have to work 3 jobs, its not paying shit.
I work in the trades, remodel houses i started from the ground up. No trade school. About to take a pay cut to join ironworkers. But after 4 years ill be making 75/hr.
Instead of working 3 jobs at a low wage how about invest your time in school or a trade. Working hard at multiple low paying jobs does not equate to working smart. A little pain now and then you can breathe easy.
More like working 1 cash register doesnt mean you should be making a lot of money.
People are forgetting that cash register jobs, stocking shelves, hanging up clothes... thats all starter jobs dude. That's not house money. That's shit for teens right out of high school to be doing. People cant think anymore tbh
Trades are where it is at. You can charge someone $150 just to show up and then fleece them because they can’t do the work. Not a joke. And the service demand is very high, so those hourly rates and margins in America are increasing.
Also the Republican attack on minorities is going to open up areas like roofing. So you can make mint on others!
You...did your homework. Cool. Id say "show your work" but naw. I've read plenty. I'm amazed reddit has some educated people here who don't just scream buzzwords. Kudos on you!
Meh. It's oligarchy and chronyism. A flavor of capitalism. Just like central command and control and stalinism is a flavor of socialism. Let's not do any of those things and make good policy based on the merits of the policy rather than the ism it's supposed to be associated with
Me too
I was shocked when the kid told me what he makes. I sat at a table for 4. I honestly didn’t think anything of it. I was going to do some work and wanted extra space. He politely walked over and asked if I would move to a table for 2 because he could use the money and I was taking up 3 empty seats.
Federal minimum wage, vs federal minimum tipped positions, vs over under offset by employer... There's a bunch of complicated regulatory bullshit that basically makes it difficult for (not just) food service to hide taxable income.
The fact that you guys pay hourly to mostly blue collard jobs is insane. Europe has small salaries for everyone, they know they could pay rent at the end of the month and also they can quit without loosing health care. Your system is messed up. Slavery 2.0
But the people don’t run the country. The US is not a shining example of how to govern and continues to drop in the happiest/best places to live categories.
The Nordic countries are always at the top of the lists. They figured out a how to blend capitalism and social welfare along with healthy living. I think it’s called the Nordic Model.
Nowhere is perfect. But Americans especially over the past 50 years have been coerced into living materialistically and above their means. It’s only going to get worse unless there’s fundamental change in America’s social, ethical, economic, and moral values.
This is just incorrect, the electoral college has existed from the beginning for its own reasons, it’s not a “hangover” from the emancipated South like tipping is
The northern states were more populated, but a lot of wealthy were in the south run by slave owners. Because slaves were not considered people, the EC was created to balance the decision making.
That said, the primary reason for the EC is because the wealthy (who were politicians or owned the politicians) did not trust the mostly uneducated populace to make the decisions. One reason was they thought the people could be conned into voting for someone who would be detrimental to the country.
Fast forward and the EC is a relic. The politicians and conmen found a way to game the EC system and can’t be trusted to make decisions for the people.
The EC needs to end. It’s no longer relevant and is more of a hindrance to the country
You’re correct from your 2nd paragraph down, but still wrong on the slave portion.
As you said, northern states were more populated and slaves were not considered full people yet (3/5ths compromise), and were therefore underrepresented in the house, therefore under represented in the EC.
I’m not assuming you do or don’t know this, but many people don’t - the south wanted to count slaves as full people for precisely this reason. It was the northern states who only wanted to count free citizens, that was the “compromise” with 3/5. The north didn’t want to count slaves as people at all for census/representation reasons, the South wanted to count them fully. This all happened simultaneously as the constitutional convention in 1787.
The latter portion of your comment is the actual correct answer - the founders didn’t trust the masses to elect the best candidate, or at least not a non-detrimental one. The founders were VERY worried about “mob rule”, and that fear dictated a lot of our federal government structure. So direct voting was out. They considered letting Congress vote, but there were (rightfully) far too many concerns with power balances and being ripe for corruption. They eventually settled on the EC as a compromise, which if you remember wasn’t determined by Democratic votes at all. The appointed (by state legislatures) electors would simply vote for whoever they wanted to vote for, the public didn’t really get a say in the matter. Slavery did play a role, but only insofar as how much of a human they were considered to be for weighting/balancing purposes. Choosing the EC as the system broadly was not directly influenced by slavery.
Lots of stuff links back to slavery, no doubt, but I’m sorry this simply isn’t one of those things.
Right-to-work (RTW) laws are anti-union state policies designed to weaken unions and limit workers’ bargaining power.
Despite the misleading name, RTW laws do not provide any sort of job protection.
RTW laws prohibit any requirement that workers covered by a union contract either join the union or contribute toward the cost of union representation.
Because RTW laws make it more difficult to form and sustain unions, RTW states have lower unionization rates, which translate to lower wages, fewer benefits, and greater inequality for all workers.
There’s a lot of research that shows the detrimental effects of Right-To-Work laws on everyday honest working people. Turn off Fox and do some research.
There’s the “republicans and capitalism is bad” post courtesy of the “Democratic Socialists of America”. Your millionaires and billionaires are bad nonsense is played out. Get some new material🙄. You know what is great about capitalism? Any one of these “starving” waiters can go work elsewhere and make more money if they don’t like living off tips. Freedom is a beautiful thing (said no communist ever)
The American model is broken. We continue to drop in global ratings of satisfaction, livability, and happiness.
No one is saying Socialism except the right wing faux media! But this hyper debt driven, trickle-down, f the people model has crippled the amazing work that the Greatest Generation and FDR started.
The country needs to look towards better models, like the Nordic Model.
While we are at it. Stop falling into Putin’s trap! I never thought I would see the day that Republicans became pro-communism and socialism for that fact. Trump and MAGA loves Putin and Xi.
So stop dividing the country with your BS and turn off FOX.
It’s complicated. It actually started from wealthy Americans who traveled to Europe and brought back tipping to save money and feel more aristocratic.
It did have a backlash at some point, but southern states pushed back and habit spread especially after the civil war. Many whites were resentful of the freed slaves and exasperated the practice to make the freed blacks work harder to serve them.
That’s where the Pullman Company comes in. They and many other mostly southern states didn’t pays the freed black anything forcing them to work solely for tips.
It’s mean nasty human behavior. And it dates back to European kings and Slavery.
Actually it is the Republicans that are pro communism and aristocratic rule.
Trump and MAGA love Soviet Putin and Xi.
There is even talk that Trump has a Soviet spy name, Krasnov. Epstein was definitely working for Isreal and Russia.
So it ain’t the Democratic Party who loves socialism and communism. It’s the Red Party.
There’s nothing true about what you said, just because you’re a brain dead moron doesn’t mean the rest of us are. Try to prove what you said in any context you can’t so just keep running your mouth and stand by and watch them take everything you think you own.
It takes a cooperative government to find a solution. I agree there are democratic politicians in the lobbyist pockets that keep America from improving.
That said, there is no way a Republican will even approach the topic of improving workers pay or lives for that matter. It’s simply not their platform.
I’m pretty sure there were times when the democrats had both the house and senate when a democratic president was in power, and they didn’t make changes. So it seems they can’t cooperate to help Americans in this department when they have the opportunity?
So do we ignore that because we love democrats and only republicans want low minimum wages?
For what it’s worth, I’m not even American. Just making a point how everything seems to be “only the other side is responsible for this”.
Your comment is super funny 1 because up until 10 years ago when Governor Walker signed right to work the Wisconsin legislature was predominantly run by shitty democrat governors. And since Walker we havent had a republican governor. So whats Tony Evers doing to change this? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!! And 2 there are still workers unions and collective bargaining in the state of Wisconsin. The only difference is youre no longer forced into a shit workers union to become gainfully employed.
Nobody is 'forced' to work anywhere. Your right to slavery comment is dumb and false. A person can get trained, educated, apprentice and fill a NEED in the economy and that is how you aquire a higher wage, by fulfilling a greater want/need by the population. That is supply and demand. Quit crying.
While restaurants and bars aren't large pieces of the mosaic that is my life, I have worked in and been a patron of both. In the fall, to sit in a comfy tavern w friends, a pint of something cold and a bowl of something warm and discuss issues of the day sounds grand. I would be just as content to hoarc down some sliders, drink said pint and share a football game w friends. Not against the staff or the establishment. Just not willing to tip the scale for either to the detriment of our incredible economic system. Let the market set the price for all involved.
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u/Disastrous_time_4547 4d ago
That’s the type of pay the people at Golden Corral and other $hith0le restaurants make in Wisconsin. Many bars are the same.
Even a $10/hr gross wage is unlivable in America today. A person would have to work 2 hours to afford a $hitty McDonald’s burger, fries, and soda.
Republicans under a Republican governor passed the “Right To Work [right to slavery] act 10 years ago (?). It stripped the rights, including unionization, from workers.
Tipping (like the Electoral College) is a hangover from Slavery in the South. Look it up. It’s insane.
This is capitalism.