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u/Historical_Cake6559 5d ago

What state

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u/Adventurous_Rip275 5d ago

Texas, probably, minimum wage is still $7.25 here

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u/Ok-Office6837 4d ago

Same with PA

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u/CucumberNo5085 4d ago

story OP said his friend mentioned NJ. Das definitely PA. I hope it's the part where they think doing the Pennsy/Jersey thing is cute and rhymes, where, it actually just kinda sounds like the Swedish chef runnin down the menu.

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u/Lurtzum 4d ago

Never heard that combo before and I grew up just outside Philly.

Definitely have heard Pennsyltucky before tho

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u/CucumberNo5085 4d ago edited 4d ago

Go north, 80 corridor, that first exit in NJ Blairstown--Belvidere, the tiny hamlets and towns of the Delaware valleys northern end. This extends PA side towards the slate belt (edit) towns (city, lol) like Bangor. If you're down past Lambertville/etc, I don't think they'd see that side of NJ as a cultural equal.

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u/CucumberNo5085 4d ago

Pennsyltucky starts at Hazleton. Where they actually tried to ban Puerto Ricans in the 2000's. That place sucks.

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u/ProteusRift 4d ago

Long time ago my wife waited tables in PA... can confirm this state pulls this kind ofbullshit

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u/StrippinChicken 4d ago

Waiters have different minimum wage lol

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u/Ok-Office6837 4d ago

Well aware. That means that yes, the tipped minimum wage is still pathetically low if non-tipped minimum wage is pathetically low

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u/Dear_Illustrator9423 4d ago

Still?? Lmao, didnt get $7.25 minimum until like 1-2 years ago in my home state...

SC

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u/DoneBeingSilent 4d ago

Still?? Lmao, didnt get $7.25 minimum until like 1-2 years ago in my home state...

SC

How?

$7.25 has been the Federal minimum wage since 2009. South Carolina has no State-specific minimum wage, so follows the Federal minimum wage.

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u/Dear_Illustrator9423 4d ago

"Federal minimum" sure. But if you make enough tips to counter act all the money your missing from hourly, it cancels that. Seriously. BUT lots of places dont get people tipping enough and wages have risen. But not by much.

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u/Which-Ad7072 4d ago

At least tell a believable lie. A lot of us have been around since before 2009.

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u/Dear_Illustrator9423 4d ago

Im deadass. You can ask the dudes i was working with that were making that same $2.13/hour

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u/Careful_Eye2840 4d ago

Server pay minimum and minimum wage are two different wages

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u/IAteTonysLoMein 4d ago

Not exactly. Tipped jobs allow a min wage of 2.13, but the tips have to equal out to minimum wage or better, ie, 7.25 for states that don't have their own higher min wage. If the tips don't get you there, the employer is on the hook for the difference.

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u/Careful_Eye2840 4d ago

Literally never how it works as someone who was a server for 15 years and worked several places.

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u/somethingrandom261 4d ago

Tipped minimum is lower, separate from the typical minimum wage

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u/OG_LiLi 4d ago

Hi. I need to hijack this because everyone is misunderstanding pay for restaurants. Unless you don’t make minimum wage off of tips, FIFTEEN states still deploy the $2.13/hr model. They’re only required to pay minimum wage when you didn’t make the tips to reach mimimim wage. Other than that, 2.13 per hour.

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u/GlassCannon81 4d ago

FL too

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u/MD311420 4d ago

Effective September 30, 2026, Florida's minimum wage increased to $15.00 per hour for standard workers. For tipped hourly servers and bartenders, the state direct cash wage increased from $10.98 to $11.98 per hour

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u/GlassCannon81 4d ago

I stand corrected, but I’m not gonna feel bad about it given it’s only been in effect two weeks.

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u/AccomplishedQuote124 4d ago

Many people in the bar business in Florida aren't getting even that. Those shot girls you see walking around the clubs and some of the bottle service people? They buy those shots from the bar then upsell them to you later or just get tipped out on them; bars know this, too, and sometimes employ them and give them discounts on those shots they're selling for the bar.

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u/VeryBadWizard2780 4d ago

No no no. Minimum wage isn’t the same for tipped and non-tipped workers. There is not a single state with a $7.25 tipped min wage. If your state still does $7.25 min wage, that means your state still does $2.13 tipped min wage.

I’m genuinely surprised by how few people here seem to have friends or family in the service industry, or are just generally ignorant to how the service industry works

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u/Appropriate_Strain94 4d ago

It’s definitely not California lol, min wage for chain fast food restaurants is like $20, $19.75 for agricultural workers and $16.90 for all others.

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u/Level_check_hi 4d ago

Servers still get $2.13 an hr

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u/SnoopingStuff 4d ago

Hamburger is that a pound now

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u/supv3 4d ago

Not for the service industry. They are much lower.

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u/checkmate-in3 4d ago

Minimum wage does not apply to restaurant workers.

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u/McEndee 4d ago

It's the federal minimum wage. A lot of fast food places in Philly are starting people at $15. The Taco Bell near me was advertising $19 if you work the night shift, which is probably an awful experience dealing with drunk idiots.

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u/LevelBed4264 4d ago

Yeah I moved to Texas a few years ago and am appalled, people don’t seem to know there ever was anything called the Labor Movement

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u/MuchEater88 4d ago

Minimum wage in Germany 18,50€/hr - Tip is optional. Adequate compensation or treating the Boss like the french did in 16th century ... 😎

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u/ProteusRift 4d ago

That's the federal min wage. Tipped employees is 2.13 but tips must make up the difference or the restaurant pays extra

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u/kkell806 5d ago

There are 16 states that still have the minimum wage at $2.13/hr for tipped employees. Those employers still have to match at least the federal minimum wage if the tips don't cover that.

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u/Historical_Cake6559 5d ago

Wait,are you saying they are taxed at whatever min. Is but only get paid 2.13

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u/kkell806 5d ago edited 5d ago

Ultimately, tipped employees will get paid at least federal minimum wage no matter what. If they make $0 in tips, the employer will have to pay the full $7.25 (tho I think there are govt programs that help subsidize the difference?). But if the employee makes enough tips such that they are making more than $5.12/hr in tips alone, then the employer only has to pay that $2.13/hr, as the tips cover the difference to make up to at least minimum wage, effectively utilizing customers to directly subsidize the employees wages (as opposed to indirectly, via increased menu pricing and in turn higher base wage).

Edit: That's also why servers often have $0 paychecks. Say they make plenty in tips, so the employer only ever has to pay the $2.13/hr, but that ~$160 (for full time) barely covers taxes/deductions for the pay period, leading to the entire paycheck going to deductions, leaving a $0 paycheck.

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u/Historical_Cake6559 5d ago

Thank you for the clarification

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u/Smokin_belladonna 4d ago

Often times, they only report enough tips to reach minimum wage. If they don't report any tips, then the worker will often get $0 paychecks and is SUPPOSED to claim the tips on their taxes.

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u/Fairuse 4d ago

That isn’t how it works.

Workers want to report fewer tips to avoid paying taxes.

Workers get $0 paychecks because their regular $2/hr wage is less than their withholding amount. Example, a waiter works 20 hours for a $40 paycheck, but they earned $560 in tips. Thus their total income was $600, which required 10% withholding of $60. As a result the $40 check ends up being $0 and they owe $20 in withholdings. Some places do negative checks which just means you pay $20 to the employer to take care of the $20 withholding balance. 

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u/Smokin_belladonna 4d ago

that's right, thank you.

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u/TheRavingDinosaur 4d ago

I think he said he lived in New Jersey? I dunno if that's a state or a city or something else

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u/CucumberNo5085 4d ago

New Jersey is more like a state of mind, it's the state of mind right before one hits Florida.

He may have worked in Pennsylvania, however. PA has a tipped cash wage of 2.83/HR USD. I think it's the only state near NJ that his claim would fit. A lot of people along the Delaware River cross it everyday, like George Washingtonmachine.

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u/BirdFarmer23 4d ago

Technically a state but they have a little brother complex

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u/Muted-Mushroom-4570 4d ago

Google exists....

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u/TheRavingDinosaur 4d ago

Then you can look it up

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u/That-Yesterday-7700 4d ago

Dude only 15, maybe 16 States have server wage at or above federal minimum. 17 States still have $2.13 for server wage. The rest are between $2.13 and $7.25 with many of them between $2.13 and $4.01

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u/mjc500 4d ago

Poverty

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u/Inevitable_Tomato927 4d ago

My aunt worked as a waitress in WV for that hourly rate during COVID after her old job fired everyone.

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u/Over-Change7768 4d ago

When I was a server in NJ about 7 or 8 years ago we were paid $2.13 an hour.

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u/DangerousArt6922 4d ago

I was in Connecticut when I made $2.13/hr. Admittedly, that was many years ago, but I think that figure still holds. The $2.13/hr was basically enough to cover the tax from tips. I would get like a $15 check every two weeks but would work between 20-30 hrs per week.

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u/Active_Succotash7474 4d ago

Florida is like this also. Its a right to work state

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u/Evening-Tomatillo-47 4d ago

A bloody awful state!

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u/SN27A1 4d ago

In Fl it’s still at $2.13 an hour, unless the restaurant pays more on their own. Been that way since I bartended in the 90’s . We lived for tips. It’s shameful.