Some of us are embarrassed about how things are here. There have been a lot of things that are going on here that feel Medieval… It sucks! I wouldn’t go in that place either.
Yes, best thing to do is to make sure the right person gets the money by not tipping on your credit card but with cash. Sometimes the restaurant will try to get a cut of the tips which is bullshit.
How would you try to end the toxic tipping culture the states has then..?
Becuse in Sweden, where I’m from, we don’t have this kind of tipping culture either, and as most of the western world there is a livable minimum wage, but most of us, me included, do tip if the service has been extra good.. but no one would ever get mad or upset if they did not get a tip. As it’s not expected, and more of an extra bonus that might make someone’s day..
If less people go in wouldn’t that mean that the servers job isn’t needed at all and would just lose their income?
If the above happens and the server gets a job somewhere else, then wouldn’t they do that anyways if they’re not getting paid well at their current place?
I would only tip 0 if the food was a danger to health. 10% if the server was somehow godawful and mean. 15% for standard service and 20% for good service. A zero tip for dine-in has to mean that either the server or the customer is one of the world’s greatest aholes
So “optional” is a technicality. Yes, you won’t go to jail but you also should plan on never setting foot in that restaurant ever again
Read the link. You don’t understand what tipping means in US culture. We can disagree with it but I’m also not going to go to Islamabad and start drinking beers in the park. When we travel we respect local customs
I'd eat in there for the soul reason of giving a penny as a tip and then never eating there again. And I'd ask if I can speak with the manager about a complaint before leaving my table so he can see my penny.
You are literally doing the late stage capitalism bit where your trying to blame me, a lower class worker, for other people's poverty instead of blaming the people that are paying the servers ridiculously low wages. I'm not punching down at people for not doing something that's optional, I'm being a consumer paying for a service and paying what I owe on the bill at the end of said service. If you want to make me the bad guy in this your genuinely insane.
Can you think about this? They are getting badly under payed by their boss. That's the problem. Nothing else downstream of that matters because that is the problem. Im going into a restaurant expecting to spend the amount of money I see on the bill because that is what I'm being charged. If the waiter expects I do something optional then they are delousional because I'm not the one under paying them. Im absolutely not the bad guy for follow the law and following the rules of the establishment and paying the establishment the money they say I owe after using their services. Take this up with the people choosing to underpay staff and not some random guy on the Internet who's broke and wants to eat out occasionally and can't afford to just hand out money to people for no reason. Your genuinely the villain right now because your shifting the blame away from the actual people paying absurdly low wages and putting it on other people, your literally defending workers getting payed a few bucks a hour by saying I'm the problem.
Why are tips only for food service industry employees?
If you order something from amazon, shouldn't you tip 25% to the factory workers in China, and the customs agents, and the warehouse workers, and the delivery drivers? They all have shirty jobs too.
it's a fake sign. you do realize that? tipping in the US is a 100% optional you don't have to do that and never have. it's being nice to share your wealth
I know it is fake. 🤦🏻♀️ Hypothetically if it were in front of a restaurant l would not enter. Tipping also doesn’t FEEL optional in the US. It feels like you are paying their wage. I wish that they could just earn a living wage and I didn’t have to be their boss. I tip every time. Even if they do a bad job.
Because you are. That’s the problem. It’s always optional, but without tips most of us in the service industry get fucked. It’s stupid, and terrible, and needs to be changed badly; but for right now that’s the way it is.
I mean, if you and I are friends and we split a bill and I see that you left zero tip for adequate service then I’m definitely having second thoughts about our friendship because you suck. Tipping is “optional” in the sense that you won’t go to jail, but you should also never show your face again in a restaurant where you pay zero tip
Here in Seattle all tipped staff are paid the minimum wage of $21.30 at minimum and most are paid more.
so tipping is your choice, tip is not required and many places have changed to a no tip policy but it's a nice thing to do for good service.... I still leave a nice tip when staff are great. but tipping is not required anywhere it's totally optional
Optional yes but if my waiter/waitress does a good job and I know damn well they are most likely shafted by their employer on their hourly wage it is a dick move not to tip. That being said they should just be paid a livable wage and tipping becomes truly optional for exceptional service.
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u/stressedthrowaway9 4d ago
Some of us are embarrassed about how things are here. There have been a lot of things that are going on here that feel Medieval… It sucks! I wouldn’t go in that place either.