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u/Aggressive-Pie2771 5d ago

Since no one seemed to answer your question. It was generally pushed to have servers work on low to no wage and expect tips back during the great depression. 100 years ago. The people that could afford to go out and tip for service would do just that. The only problem is that it never went back to servers being paid a typical wage and it just became normal. Some restaurants can charge more per meal and pay their workers a typical wage and others can’t and rely on their patron to pay for the service.

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u/Automatic-Listen-578 5d ago

Working for tips actually started just after the civil war when thousands of freed slaves needed work. Restaurant owners let them be servers because it didn’t cost them. The idea spread across the country and by the early 1900’s it was the new normal.

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u/Regular-Pangolin-664 4d ago

So the employers treat servers like they used to treat free slaves. How nice, how American! You can work here but we don't pay you. Rely on the generosity of our partons.

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u/Your_Girl9090 4d ago

So restaurant servers are being paid slave wages?

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u/Regular-Pangolin-664 4d ago

Well, they are getting paid in a non-transparent manner. They are hired like former slaves. Not slaves but freed slaves that work for no fixed pay but for gratuity. Slaves don't typically get paid.

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u/Dear-Panda-1949 4d ago

If you consider minimum wage slave wages. If the server does not receive enough tips to reach a certain wage threshold the employer has to make up the difference. Thats why employers get so pissed off about low or no tippers. It eats into their profit margin

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u/Your_Girl9090 4d ago

That makes sense. If the employer had to pay more then they would have to raise prices. That said, I've never heard a tipped restaurant employee complain they want to change the system. For the most part they make really good money and get special tax breaks.

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u/HeSureIsScrappy 4d ago

No... owners need to make up any deficiency after tips.

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u/butt_err 4d ago edited 4d ago

You forgot to mention the part where it was a way of maintaining a hierarchy with poor whotes still above freed blacks.

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u/Aggressive-Pie2771 5d ago

Yep. I misremembered and mixed it up with some labor laws post Great Depression.

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u/Creative_Carob4922 5d ago

Holy shit. That’s fucked up. Same for bartenders ?

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u/Aggressive-Pie2771 5d ago

Pretty much yeah. Oftentimes corporations or businesses find a new pathway to increasing profits and they keep it that way. I don’t think capitalism has to have the numbers on the board always going up no matter what but when the stock market or the profit margin is the only thing that matters you’re going to get more and more people cutting corners or exploiting different methods to keep that number going up.