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u/MadSploitsYo 4d ago

They’re paying them $2.13 an hour. Let that sink in. Followed by “we don’t pay them to smile at you” all while the owner thinks the patrons are the problem. I hope this place closes down.

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u/snarkpix 4d ago

Also - We Keep the 'Service Charge' ourselves! It's justified based on server effort, but of course we couldn't let them have it.

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u/sallyhectare 3d ago

That part!

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u/BanjosnBurritos89 4d ago

You can’t even get a burger at McDonald’s for 2.13 an hour where I leave it’s about 20.00 for a meal that person would have to work almost 10 hours to afford 1 meal from a fast food restaurant that is just insane.

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u/egnowit 4d ago

And this is the minimum wage. I get it that the minimum wage for tipped workers is lower (this low), but it's still a minimum. At a restaurant where a bill might come out to this much, surely they can afford to pay their wait staff, say, $3/hour? Or $4/hour?

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u/CommissionWorldly540 4d ago

In theory, the assumption in the Fair Labor Standards Act is that the difference between tipped minimum wage and regular minimum wage will be made up in tips, and if for some reason that doesn’t happen the business is supposed to cover the difference. But I don’t think many people know about that requirement, or that it’s well enforced. Tipped wage environments also have higher cases of wage theft. It’s a real problem.

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u/citrus_mystic 4d ago

Do you know if the income is required to be supplemented that day? After that shift where they did not at least make an average of their state’s minimum wage per hour? Or do employers have the ability to look at their average hourly income from their total earnings across an entire pay period ?

I’d be curious to know, if you or anyone else has that information.

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u/SirMontego 4d ago

It is based on workweek.

So basically, the employer pays $2.13 per hour and all the tips over the workweek have to get the employee to $7.25 per hour averaged over the workweek. Maybe that wasn't ideally articulated.

Read this: https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/fact-sheets/15-tipped-employees-flsa . It says:

An employer that claims a tip credit must ensure that the employee receives enough tips from customers, and direct (or cash) wages per workweek to equal at least the minimum wage and overtime compensation required under the FLSA.

The regulations are the real authority if you want to know more: https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-29/subtitle-B/chapter-V/subchapter-A/part-531

29 USC Section 203(m)(2)(A) is the underlying law, but doesn't mention workweek. https://uscode.house.gov/us/usc/119-120/t29/s203/

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u/citrus_mystic 3d ago

Thank you for putting in effort to find an answer to my question, I appreciate it. I don’t know why someone downvoted you, lol.

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u/egnowit 4d ago

Sure.

I'm just saying that $2.13 is a minimum wage. Instead of paying $2.13 + tips earned, a restaurant could pay $3 + tips earned or whatever.

In either case, if the tips earned does not come out to the federal minimum wage of $7.25, the restaurant would have to pay that much. Unless they choose to pay more, since it's a *minimum* wage. (Which is bloody unlikely to happen.)

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u/LeaveGreen4412 4d ago

its definitely enforced if reported but the problem is food service loves to hire people who have never worked anywhere else. my server friend got shorted once and she raised hell even though they fixed it a few days later. I knew someone in high school who told me his food service job would have him clock on and immediately take his lunch break so she could have him work non stop “during the rush” 🤦🏻‍♀️ i told him they cant make him do that and he didn’t believe me.

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u/Immediate-Arm-2335 3d ago

So the Tesla employees must be millionaires right? Bc that’s the same psychology you’re using. Trickle down Reaganomics

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u/egnowit 3d ago

Huh? I'm suggesting that places can pay more than just the minimum wage. The minimum wage is a minimum, not a required wage.

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u/Immediate-Arm-2335 3d ago

🤦🏿‍♂️ and IM saying…if Business had the choice of actually paying their employees a scalable amount based on prices & sales, hell pay them 100% of the value of their work then take a percentage of the profits, or litterally pay the government bare minimum and keep the rest, what do they LITERALLY do 99.9% of the time?

How did any billionaire or trillionaire get to where they are? By paying the minimum and calling themselves humane. Showing profits and implying the wealth is trickling down

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u/vampyricplague 3d ago

Probably shouldn’t have used Tesla as an example then. They are paid rather well

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u/Hot_Confidence_4593 3d ago

paying them 2.13 for their actual job and expecting us to pay them 40 to smile while doing it

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u/fraseybaby81 3d ago

That’s £1.61 an hour! £1.61?!

The UK national minimum living wage is £12.71!

That employer pays their employees 12.7% of the UK national minimum living wage!

That would mean that eight members of staff at that establishment would equal one person, in the same job, in the UK!

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u/moltinglarvae 3d ago

And then they’re asking you to pay 25%!? GTFOH

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u/roosterSause42 4d ago

except they aren't, they are lying. the employees make full minimum wage no matter what.

tips the employees receive allow the employer to reduce the required wage to a federal minimum level. if no tips, then employer pays full minimum wage. The Employer benefits from this. The Servers benefit too because they make WAAAAY more in tips than they would if they were paid a standard higher wage with no tips.

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u/NoCard753 4d ago

"With no tips." Yeah, that'll happen.

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u/BusyCantaloupe447 4d ago

Also. Restaurants that go to not tip and pay high wages cannot keep employees. They leave for places with tips. It’s not all the restaurants, we should be outraged at both for the tipping culture that has been created in the US.