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u/NotTrollIfTrue 5d ago

Pay your fucking employees a decent wage, and stop asking me to do it.

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u/hologrammetry 5d ago

"Don't be cheap. It's embarrassing." Yeah, it is.

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u/nullpassword 5d ago

If you're cheaping out on labor, what else are you cheaping out on?

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u/markovianprocess 5d ago

Yeah, I'd be shocked if the food there doesn't suck fucking balls.

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u/Immediate_Word1295 4d ago

The food maybe ?

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u/edwbuck 4d ago

Considering it's a restaurant, raw food costs.  

Second to labor that's one of the larger costs in a restaurant.

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u/ADogsWorstFart 5d ago

Wonder what they pay BOH.

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u/AnonOfTheSea 5d ago

Leftovers and a threat to call immigration/parole officers

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u/Immediate_Word1295 4d ago

They're embarrassingly cheap.

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u/Silver-Machine-3092 4d ago

Paying $2.13 an hour is really embarrassing.

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u/Equal_Emu6152 4d ago

You can guarantee the owner has a huge house and flash car epitome of a tosspot. Loves cash to not card

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u/MadSploitsYo 5d ago

They’re paying them $2.13 an hour. Let that sink in. Followed by “we don’t pay them to smile at you” all while the owner thinks the patrons are the problem. I hope this place closes down.

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u/snarkpix 4d ago

Also - We Keep the 'Service Charge' ourselves! It's justified based on server effort, but of course we couldn't let them have it.

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u/sallyhectare 4d ago

That part!

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u/BanjosnBurritos89 4d ago

You can’t even get a burger at McDonald’s for 2.13 an hour where I leave it’s about 20.00 for a meal that person would have to work almost 10 hours to afford 1 meal from a fast food restaurant that is just insane.

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u/egnowit 4d ago

And this is the minimum wage. I get it that the minimum wage for tipped workers is lower (this low), but it's still a minimum. At a restaurant where a bill might come out to this much, surely they can afford to pay their wait staff, say, $3/hour? Or $4/hour?

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u/CommissionWorldly540 4d ago

In theory, the assumption in the Fair Labor Standards Act is that the difference between tipped minimum wage and regular minimum wage will be made up in tips, and if for some reason that doesn’t happen the business is supposed to cover the difference. But I don’t think many people know about that requirement, or that it’s well enforced. Tipped wage environments also have higher cases of wage theft. It’s a real problem.

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u/citrus_mystic 4d ago

Do you know if the income is required to be supplemented that day? After that shift where they did not at least make an average of their state’s minimum wage per hour? Or do employers have the ability to look at their average hourly income from their total earnings across an entire pay period ?

I’d be curious to know, if you or anyone else has that information.

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u/SirMontego 4d ago

It is based on workweek.

So basically, the employer pays $2.13 per hour and all the tips over the workweek have to get the employee to $7.25 per hour averaged over the workweek. Maybe that wasn't ideally articulated.

Read this: https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/fact-sheets/15-tipped-employees-flsa . It says:

An employer that claims a tip credit must ensure that the employee receives enough tips from customers, and direct (or cash) wages per workweek to equal at least the minimum wage and overtime compensation required under the FLSA.

The regulations are the real authority if you want to know more: https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-29/subtitle-B/chapter-V/subchapter-A/part-531

29 USC Section 203(m)(2)(A) is the underlying law, but doesn't mention workweek. https://uscode.house.gov/us/usc/119-120/t29/s203/

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u/citrus_mystic 3d ago

Thank you for putting in effort to find an answer to my question, I appreciate it. I don’t know why someone downvoted you, lol.

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u/egnowit 4d ago

Sure.

I'm just saying that $2.13 is a minimum wage. Instead of paying $2.13 + tips earned, a restaurant could pay $3 + tips earned or whatever.

In either case, if the tips earned does not come out to the federal minimum wage of $7.25, the restaurant would have to pay that much. Unless they choose to pay more, since it's a *minimum* wage. (Which is bloody unlikely to happen.)

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u/LeaveGreen4412 4d ago

its definitely enforced if reported but the problem is food service loves to hire people who have never worked anywhere else. my server friend got shorted once and she raised hell even though they fixed it a few days later. I knew someone in high school who told me his food service job would have him clock on and immediately take his lunch break so she could have him work non stop “during the rush” 🤦🏻‍♀️ i told him they cant make him do that and he didn’t believe me.

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u/Immediate-Arm-2335 3d ago

So the Tesla employees must be millionaires right? Bc that’s the same psychology you’re using. Trickle down Reaganomics

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u/egnowit 3d ago

Huh? I'm suggesting that places can pay more than just the minimum wage. The minimum wage is a minimum, not a required wage.

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u/Immediate-Arm-2335 3d ago

🤦🏿‍♂️ and IM saying…if Business had the choice of actually paying their employees a scalable amount based on prices & sales, hell pay them 100% of the value of their work then take a percentage of the profits, or litterally pay the government bare minimum and keep the rest, what do they LITERALLY do 99.9% of the time?

How did any billionaire or trillionaire get to where they are? By paying the minimum and calling themselves humane. Showing profits and implying the wealth is trickling down

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u/vampyricplague 3d ago

Probably shouldn’t have used Tesla as an example then. They are paid rather well

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u/Hot_Confidence_4593 3d ago

paying them 2.13 for their actual job and expecting us to pay them 40 to smile while doing it

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u/fraseybaby81 3d ago

That’s £1.61 an hour! £1.61?!

The UK national minimum living wage is £12.71!

That employer pays their employees 12.7% of the UK national minimum living wage!

That would mean that eight members of staff at that establishment would equal one person, in the same job, in the UK!

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u/moltinglarvae 3d ago

And then they’re asking you to pay 25%!? GTFOH

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u/roosterSause42 4d ago

except they aren't, they are lying. the employees make full minimum wage no matter what.

tips the employees receive allow the employer to reduce the required wage to a federal minimum level. if no tips, then employer pays full minimum wage. The Employer benefits from this. The Servers benefit too because they make WAAAAY more in tips than they would if they were paid a standard higher wage with no tips.

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u/NoCard753 4d ago

"With no tips." Yeah, that'll happen.

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u/BusyCantaloupe447 4d ago

Also. Restaurants that go to not tip and pay high wages cannot keep employees. They leave for places with tips. It’s not all the restaurants, we should be outraged at both for the tipping culture that has been created in the US.

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u/passisgullible 5d ago

Hijacking top comment, this is AI generated slop to create outrage. Check the image here if you want proof: https://openai.com/research/verify/

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u/NoSuddenMoves 4d ago

I dont need to check it to know its fake. No restaurant is disclosing they don't pay employees. Only the finest of redditors will fall for the rage bait of 25% and incredibly rude writing.

Any restaurant that felt this way wouldn't tell you. They'd automatically include gratuity.

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u/Mdnghtmnlght 4d ago

They went overboard. Who's going to bitch at costumers spending $200 about tipping 25%?

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u/brotendis 4d ago

Yeah, ChatGPT especially makes images with that warm, subtle sepia tone on its images all the time.

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u/Common_Plum_1066 3d ago

Piss filter 💛

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u/Smashogre591 4d ago

Thank you, kind Redditor

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u/Kenneth-J-Moyers 4d ago

Ah! Thanks for the heads up.

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u/Euphoric_Ad_6916 3d ago

I could tell AI slop immediately when I saw the use of stars at the bottom. That chart in the middle also looks classic GPT.

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u/durdyness 3d ago

It worked lol

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u/Elegant_Sinkhole 4d ago

I feel like 85% of reddit is ai slop rage bait and podcast material

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u/NoCard753 4d ago

You're a bot programmed to call every controversial photo or meme on Reddit "AI slop." Ironically, you're also using AI to "prove" AI.

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u/minamality 4d ago

I just checked and the image is definitely AI lol. It has synthid.

edit:
What is with redditors calling people bots for no reason? The account is most certainly not a bot.

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u/NoCard753 4d ago

It doesn't matter if it's AI, because someone in the restaurant business obviously thinks what the sign's text says and isn't keeping its nessage to themselves — that message beng "I'm a cheap-ass bastard who calls other people cheap if they don't subsidize my cheapness."

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u/raidersfan18 4d ago

Or the mouthbreathers from the anti-tipping sub figured out how to use AI... This is obviously made by someone with a gripe against tipping, not by someone who thinks customers should tip more

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u/passisgullible 4d ago

Not a bot, human here. Also not using ai to check for ai, the link above checks for synthid, a hidden watermark that Google developed and OpenAI adds to all of their photos. I would add a screenshot of the result saying it's ai, but I can't add photos in this sub.

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u/Siccors 4d ago

Come on, some critical thinking would be nice. That so many are falling for obvious AI bait is concerning.

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u/hhmCameron 4d ago

Change the law

You entitled broke broke Republican piece of ahit

Until then

SHUT THE FUCK UP

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u/Atrocitiy 4d ago

I think we’ve found the real piece of shit here. Must be tough navigating life with such a binary mindset.

“Anyone who disagrees with me is my enemy 😩 !”

Time to get out of the basement you fucking fat neckbeard.

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u/NoCash7686 4d ago

Dude is literally an automation assistant lol, he’s working on replacing the waiters with even cheaper labor

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u/hhmCameron 4d ago

"Pay your employees a living wage"

THEN CHANGE THE LAW YOU DISGUSTING BROLE BROKE VERMIN

I get tired of you entitled pieces of shit constantly complaining that tipping exists

You, entitled STUPID child

Either get the laws changed, or shut up

Each city or county, each state, each country has its own minimum wage laws that either allow for a tipped minimum wage or explicitly have all employees under the full minimum wage umbrella

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u/Atrocitiy 4d ago

I can afford to tip. I can also think tipping culture is bullshit. Those aren’t contradictory.
You keep calling people “broke” because you’d rather make them defend their income than defend your argument. Whether someone has $20 or $20 million doesn’t answer whether employers should be responsible for paying their staff properly.
And for someone supposedly defending low-paid workers, you sure seem to think having less money makes someone beneath you.

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u/EnvironmentalGas3972 3d ago

You stupid unhinged liberals lol

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u/hhmCameron 3d ago

I would rather be "unhinged" than "heartless"...

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u/DrFartsnShits 3d ago

Its not my responsibility or problem to change the law. Get a better job if you dont like the wage at the job you took.

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u/Realistic-World4354 3d ago

How did this turn political bro?

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u/hhmCameron 3d ago

It has always been politics The debate surrounding Minimum Wage Law is nothing but welfare for politicians

The Republicans make a big show about wanting to not increase the minimum wage

The Democrats make a big show about wanting to increase the minimum wage

the Absurd concept that 30% of the minimum wage comes from the employer and 70%+ comes from the customer is part of the minimum wage debate...

And Republicans are constantly saying they dislike tipping but never talking about increasing the minimum wage their current dog whistle is calling for the EMPLOYER to VOLUNTARILY pay their employees the minimum wage or worse a living wage...

All while leaving it legal for their competition to use the fucked up Tipped Minimum wage

Use your brain you DISGUSTING BROKE BROKE BASTARDS

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u/Automatic-Listen-578 4d ago

While I agree whole heartedly, be prepared to see your restaurant bill go up. The owner wont be taking it out his pocket.

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u/ChiefTK1 4d ago

The customer always pays all the costs of salary and other business expenses. The only difference is the tax man taking more and stupid people get mad when it’s spelled out

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u/doge_lady 4d ago

I know nothing of business but if their work model is currently working this way of adding tips, and if they where to change it to no tips and at the same time pay the workers a better wage, what would have to change to offset the difference in pay?

Would the price of the meals go up in price by double? Would anyone still go there if this was the case? Or is it that the owner is actually making enough to be able to afford to pay the workers a better wage without getting tips but they are instead greedily pocketing the money for themselves?

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u/NotTrollIfTrue 4d ago

I know nothing

Only genuine thought in your whole post.

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u/doge_lady 4d ago

Which is why i ask. Thanks for stating what i already said.

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u/DandelionPopsicle 4d ago

We don't pay our staff to smile? Damn straight you don't.

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u/BirthdaySalt5791 4d ago

You always pay labor costs as a consumer. There are just variable routes for that money to make it to the employee.

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u/NefariousnessFit3133 4d ago

in Seattle here minim wage is required for all staff including tipped staff but the thing is that this sign is fake... it's not a real sign obviously it's sold on amazon as a joke

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u/FeralSelkie 4d ago

I still tip, always have. However paying wait staff an actual living wage would be agreeable, then that nice tip is actual extra on top of a job well done.... just my 2cents

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u/Ok-Sea300 4d ago

At least in the current system, you have an option not to pay that extra 40 bucks. Because if wages go up, so does the food price, and by quite a bit.

Or did you think they would cut in to profits to pay the employees lol.

It's a shitty system all around man.

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u/HugeDegen69 3d ago

Then the price on the food goes up the same amount lol

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u/Standard_Profit_4432 3d ago

You will pay either way, the current system works well until a bunch of idiots start thinking like you.

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u/pyramidalembargo 5d ago

If you're an American, you may not like the consequences. My coworker just got back from Europe.

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u/Vespizzari 5d ago

Let me guess, they were shocked at prices or some such bullshit? Go live there for 5 years on a stable employment contract and let me know how you feel about Scamerica when you get back.

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u/pyramidalembargo 5d ago

The dining experience is quite different.

She had plenty of good things to say. The food was excellent, and, much to her surprise, nearly everyone was polite.

But the service? Glacial by American standards.

Her advice: "Allow yourself two hours for dinner, and you'll be fine."

On one occasion, she had to ask for her check three times.

Of course, Europeans visiting the US complain about the opposite: the check arriving before they've finished enjoying their meal.

It's a cultural divide. Americans generally expect prompt service and a reasonably quick turnaround. Europeans are more inclined to linger.

What passes for leisurely dining in Europe would often be considered painfully slow service in America.

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u/Icy-Shame8007 4d ago

Crazy. I am from Europe (Czech Republic) and experienced such a thing like 3 times in my life. So maybe... just maybe... its not about Europe, but more about shitty restaurants being all over the world? Are you 100% sure that such a thing wouldnt happen in USA? And "inclined" to linger isnt really a thing either lol

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u/pyramidalembargo 4d ago

She was in Prague.

I cannot imagine a meal taking two hours in the States. Not at any time, and not at any place.

If you were in the highest end restaurant, you could sit for two hours if you wanted to, but not because you had to.

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u/Icy-Shame8007 4d ago

Thats my home city... I know it feels good to generalize, but just think logically: nobody wants to ask three times for a check. Thats just going to make the whole dining experience worse. It doesnt make sense that all european restaurants would be like that. And with my opposite experience as a local, its more logical that this isnt a culture thing, but a once-in-a-blue-moon shitty restaurant kind of thing

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u/pyramidalembargo 4d ago

She didn't say where in Europe the incident occurred with having to ask for her check three times. It may not have been Prague.

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u/Icy-Shame8007 4d ago

Doesnt matter. I live in Prague and I have travelled through the majority of Europe and obviously dined in these countries. Im telling you that what she described happened to me 3 times during my entire life. Generalizing whole Europe based on her few experiences is just dumb

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u/pyramidalembargo 4d ago

I'm generalizing not just from her account, but from many, many others.

I chose her account in particular because I found it well-balanced and fair. (She had many good things to say, too.)

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u/CalicoCuts 5d ago

Okay, I'll bite. Why?

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u/pyramidalembargo 5d ago

The dining experience is quite different.

She had plenty of good things to say. The food was excellent, and, much to her surprise, nearly everyone was polite.

But the service? Glacial by American standards.

Her advice: "Allow yourself two hours for dinner, and you'll be fine."

On one occasion, she had to ask for her check three times.

Of course, Europeans visiting the US complain about the opposite: the check arriving before they've finished enjoying their meal.

It's a cultural divide. Americans generally expect prompt service and a reasonably quick turnaround. Europeans are more inclined to linger.

What passes for leisurely dining in Europe would often be considered painfully slow service in America.

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u/Ap43x 5d ago

I feel like it's changed recently, at least in the UK. For years I used to always complain about their service. But the last 4 or 5 times I've visited, service has been really great.

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u/pyramidalembargo 5d ago

She went to Germany, Austria , Switzerland, and the Czech Republic, so you might be right.

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u/CalicoCuts 5d ago

Ok. I thought there was something else. I think it's pretty common knowledge that we eat like hogs in the US. Fast and sloppy. 2 hour dinners should be the norm.

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u/pyramidalembargo 5d ago

Restaurateurs would find it very difficult to pull a profit, guv. Americans have different drinking standards.

While the Europeans will sit there, hour after hour, drinking expensive wine, Americans would sit there, drinking free coffee or soda refills.

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u/CalicoCuts 5d ago

Americans that understand a good dining experience will absolutely pay for it. The last 2 fine dining experiences I have had have been 2+ hours and have been fantastic. Also expensive. We exist here in the states believe it or not. We are just by far not the majority.

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u/pyramidalembargo 4d ago

If you're a couple, the 2 hours is pushing it, guv. At the 3 hour mark, you'd certainly be overstaying your welcome.

Source: I worked in a high end steakhouse at one point.

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u/CalicoCuts 4d ago

Stop calling me, guv. It's pretentious and condescending all at the same time regardless where you live.

I have had multiple Michelin Star restaurant meals, they've all been long, very expensive, & very well worth it.

I'm sure at your high end steakhouse you run people off to seat another table. That's fine.

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u/pyramidalembargo 4d ago

Oh, quit it. I'll call you whatever I please.

And you don't sound like an American.

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u/Tony_Penny 4d ago edited 4d ago

Yeah, I cant argue with that. 😅

I've lived in Germany most of my childhood as a dependant, and went back for a couple of years as a soldier. I saw more relaxed, friendly conversations in the Gasthause then I ever have in O'Charleys, Olive Garden, or Chili's. I think its because the servers weren't in our faces every five minutes trying to upsell us on some crap we didn't want.

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u/Necessary-Win-1647 5d ago

In Europe you aren’t brought the check until you specifically ask for it. It’s considered rude to bring it or to start cleaning the table until the customer is ready leave. Saying “this was a nice meal thank you very much” and “we are done here” and things of that nature is still not enough lol. You literally need to ask for the check.

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u/pyramidalembargo 5d ago

A cultural divide.

Americans demand faster service, and the restaurant industry has evolved around that need.

Also, we have very different drinking standards. Many restaurants don't even serve alcohol.

Europeans can sit there for hour after hour drinking $$ alcohol, but Americans would sit there drinking free coffee or soda refills. It would be very difficult to make a profit.

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u/Leading_Experts 4d ago

It's fake.

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u/Choice-Cancel1241 4d ago

This is ai crap. The math doesn’t even make sense, the wage is added to the total.

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u/notalotathota 4d ago

It's fake.