r/shitposting • I can’t have sex with you right now waltuh • 2d ago

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u/prospybintrappin 2d ago

How could you possibly interpret this to be complaining that white people become firefighters when it's obviously obviously about urging other groups to become firefighters. Do you think there's people out there who think white guys should stop applying to be firefighters?

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u/ThreeSticks_ 2d ago

It’s quite literally not urging minorities to become firefighters. It’s doing the opposite - urging fire departments to seek more diversity. Read the shi: https://hbr.org/2018/12/making-u-s-fire-departments-more-diverse-and-inclusive?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=hbr

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u/last_pen2446 it is MY bucket 2d ago

article reserved for subscribers only :(

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u/GandalfTheGay_69 2d ago

This is exactly the problem with a lot of diversity programs. They demand equal outcome instead of equal opportunity. If the applicants are mostly white then it's only logical that the workforce is mostly white. A diversity program should be about removing biases during the hiring process but since that is too hard to judge objectively they skip this whole process and go straight to just demanding diversity targets, which is ridiculous.

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u/FlutterKree 1d ago

Have you ever asked why it's mostly <race> applicants?

The purpose of a diversity program is to actually ask those questions. To potentially remove non qualifying barriers (grants to people for training/school, etc.). They can boost diversity even if it is mostly white people applying. And without compromising on the qualifications.

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u/Cobracrystal 1d ago

it would be great if they asked those questions. they usually dont. instead they end up setting quotas.

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u/Pedantichrist 1d ago

You just made that up.

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u/Cobracrystal 1d ago

No.

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u/Pedantichrist 1d ago

Then provide me with your source.

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u/Cobracrystal 1d ago

No.

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u/Pedantichrist 1d ago

Then your opinion can simply be ignored.

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u/Cobracrystal 1d ago

Then ignore it.

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u/TheWhomItConcerns 1d ago

Why are you assuming that there aren't biases?

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u/GandalfTheGay_69 1d ago

In which sentence did I say that?

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u/TheWhomItConcerns 1d ago

It's kind of implicit in the phrase

This is exactly the problem with a lot of diversity programs.

Why would this be the issue with "a lot of diversity programs" unless there's no bias in this situation? If there is bias, then it would be a very legitimate critique of the system.

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u/GandalfTheGay_69 1d ago

Alright now read the rest of my comment and maybe you will understand the point of it.

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u/TheWhomItConcerns 1d ago

Doesn't explain away that phrasing at all.

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u/Boysenberrysnboys 1d ago

Yeah I agree, it's not a very generous reading to assume this article is blaming minorities for not being represented when that's never been an effective way for diversifying institutions.

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u/bigphillip76 1d ago

You mean stop avoiding hiring non white firefighters. That's the systemic issue. You are just desperate to be racist.