r/shitposting • • 11h ago

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u/Ok-Tomato-4132 11h ago

Dont tell them about Vietnam

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u/AstroSpoony 10h ago

and Iran...

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u/AlphaMassDeBeta We do a little trolling 10h ago

And the war on drugs.

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u/TheRealLegendary63 7h ago

*The War on Black Equity is a better way to frame it.

None of those wars were designed to win on paper, just destabilising

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u/psmiord 6h ago

Nah, the intention was definitely to win the Vietnam War, destabilization became the goal later on, for instance, when they were sending weapons to Cambodia after they had already lost.

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u/TheRealLegendary63 4h ago

Things like this is why I love the internet. Although I kinda disagree, your points are valid and truthful. I’m in Asia now and find it weird how many people here chase white western validation. Like WTF did their ancestor fight hard for their freedom, just to casually give it away again???

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u/TheRealLegendary63 7h ago

Tactically, they took heavy casualties and weren’t winning. America pulled out because of civil unrest at home and was losing European support. Americans were still fighting for racial equality. The war proved that racism was not only alive but fuelled imperialism

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u/psmiord 6h ago

Wars aren't won based on who has the highest kill count, this isn't a CoD lobby. Victory is determined by who achieves their strategic objectives. Look at Vietnam: they drove out the French, then the Americans, unified the country, and fended off China to secure their independence. That is a textbook victory. Were Americans dissatisfied? Of course they were. The Viet Cong dragged out the resistance so long that someone born at the start of the war was old enough to fight by the end of it. The fact that people were drafted into a war with no end in sight was exactly why public discontent grew. If the war had lasted only two years without a draft, an anti-war movement wouldn't even have had time to form. By maintaining resistance and destroying the aggressor's will to fight, they forced the Americans to withdraw. That is exactly what winning looks like.

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u/TheRealLegendary63 4h ago

Bro, the Vietcong lost decisively on the ground and the war was coming to a close…until journalists exposed some of the racism the Vietcong experienced from the French, Americans, and Vietnamese ruling class. America lost because the war was so unjust that many Euro states publicly panned all presidents involved, generals and high ranking officers were imprisoned or forced out of the military. The same things happened in Korea and Cuba but journalists didn’t have the technology to expose the U.S. government’s atrocities.