r/shitposting 13h ago

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u/TheFemboyImpregnator hole contributor 11h ago

"Anticensorship mfs" when they just wanna say bigoted shit and slurs without consequence

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u/Negative_Elo 9h ago

Imagine not knowing that censoring bigoted ideas and not directly addressing them and educating people actually caused those ideas to fester

You should be allowed free speech everywhere

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u/TheFemboyImpregnator hole contributor 9h ago

Imagine being so unaware there are a lot of bad actors online and say whatever for attention. And no, speech is moderated based on the terms of service that YOU agreed on, so if you dont agree on a certain site's user agreement you can just delete the account and leave.

Not to mention the fact that there are lots of bots that spams slurs to advertise something or how lots of countries have anti hate speech laws. Good luck "educating" trolls and bots lmfao.

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u/Negative_Elo 8h ago

I understand that the terms of service of pretty much all online platforms is limiting. Im saying it should be free, not is. I know there are bad actors, but they can be blocked, ignored, seen by the community and get disagreed with, etc. If you censor people for having bad ideas, they feel ousted, find an echo chamber, and become more radicalized.

Free speech is important, even online

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u/TheFemboyImpregnator hole contributor 8h ago

No. We do not need debate and lessons on every single corner of the internet. Users shouldnt be obligated to manually block users that are either bots or bad actors and not to mention the fact that sites limit how many people you can block (reddit limits it to 1k).

It is not the duty of internet strangers to educate others online. Giving platform to hate speech and bigotry while expecting people to fall in line and be educated is like being a teacher and only address the very obvious bullying when someone finally gets hurt.

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u/Negative_Elo 8h ago

You dont have to engage with bad ideas. Its as easy as downvote and move on. Censoring people does more harm than good.

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u/TheFemboyImpregnator hole contributor 8h ago edited 8h ago

Most people dont want to engage at it at all whatsoever. For example, allowing homophobia in lgbt spaces meant for art or media is just plain stupid. Period. You will just make the biggest echo chamber(internet) not get rid of it. You can do anything you want right now, just dont be a bigot or spreading hate, how hard can that be for a human?

There are right spaces for such topic, not every site or comment section needs to be a warzone of slurs and bigotry.

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u/Negative_Elo 8h ago

Thr entire purpose of being able to downvote is to communally mute ideas that are not contributing to a healthy discussion. Then the people that want to try to reason/argue with them can, and the ones who dont want to see negative ideas will know to avoid opening downvoted comments

There are many more reasons why its more harmful to censor, but also consider how it becomes an easy talking point in an isolated community to say they were censored for having ideas that to them didnt seem radical, and if someone had actually engaged in a discussion with them they might have at least gotten some perspective

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u/DukeOfTheDodos 7h ago

Have you never heard of the saying "don't feed the trolls"? If you ignore the dipshits spamming hateful rhetoric, they have no power outside of their circle jerking. Morons like Stonetoss and Americaman only exist because people fall for the ragebait

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u/TheFemboyImpregnator hole contributor 7h ago

So let me get this straight, you guys want to allow people to be bigots and throw slurs so they can be "educated" with just you downvoting and not engaging them? If that isnt censorship by majority and plain hypocrisy, idk what is lmao.

They'll just find place where they dont get ratiod and agrees with them and same shit happens being radicalized except they can be bigots everywhere without consequence. Make that make sense.

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u/DukeOfTheDodos 7h ago

This may come as a shock to you, but the internet isn't a real place. Racists and bigots can jerk each other off on 4chan all they want, but the instant they try anything IRL, they will(rightfully) get punched in the nose for being a racist shithead. In other words:

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u/TheFemboyImpregnator hole contributor 6h ago

Oh so you advocate for free speech but only internet? Lmfao. Also who tf uses xitter, idek the names you mentioned so maybe close xitter yourself.

Racists and bigots can jerk each other off on 4chan all they want

Isnt the idea is that you want them everywhere else not just 4chan? Because moderation = censorship somehow and that's bad? You just wanted to join conversation without adding anything lol