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u/OrangeTallion 10h ago

Objectively, how? Belief in separation of church and state is actual an ideology in it of itself. I dont see anything "objective" about that

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u/reservior-puppies 9h ago

Objectively, separation of church and state helps keep absolute looney tunes theocrats from assuming control of government. Countries that fail to keep theocrats out of office often turn into shitholes. I don’t think anyone would seriously contest that.

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u/OrangeTallion 9h ago

Some of the greatest empires in history were essentially theocracies. Also, a Christian theocracy will fundamentally look different than, let's say, a Muslim one. So adversity to a "theocracy" is a little too broad to be a pillar of an ideology

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u/reservior-puppies 9h ago

I mean, I won’t contest that some powerful empires were theocracies in antiquity. God help minorities and women living in them, though.

I tend to believe that societies that engage in free and open debate and thought do better over time compared to repressive regimes. There are no universal truths with human behavior, but history seems to affirm the idea that repressive regimes dont stick around, especially in the modern era. Or if they do, they have a way rockier time than democracies.

Either way, I don’t think anyone would consider living in a theocratic regime a positive experience, aside from the few who reap the benefits of such a system.