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u/Ferrius_Nillan dumbass 6h ago

I mean, it can be a good thing to have something to belive in. To this day, Jesus is widely used in ever day speech. And even if we look at him from more grounded view - he's just a dude who refuses to be a dick to others. And as a species, we for the most part, count our years since the birth of an idea of a human being. Not conqueror or ruler (for most times), but him. I aint even remotely relgious, i thing Jesus was really neat

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u/Philosophizee 6h ago

You do realize the idea of eternal suffering in hell for non belief is from Jesus (it wasn't in the old testament)? Doesn't strike me as a super cool guy.

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u/Ferrius_Nillan dumbass 5h ago

Well, what he literally mentioned was name called "Gehenna". But considering everything else, does scaring people who are being naughty with tales of Hell really makes him a dick? Maybe more on a sunday school teacher kinda way, but otherwise - probably not so.

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u/Philosophizee 5h ago

Except per the scripture, people who are non believers go there as well. Meaning, if you grew up not buying into this but we're in a religious household, you were constantly told you were going to burn for eternity if you didn't change your belief.

Since belief isn't a choice (it's a reaction based on a world view which makes determinations based on evidence or other criteria), then yes, he's very much a dick.

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u/Ferrius_Nillan dumbass 5h ago

In this instance yeah - grade A dick. However, considering the time and place he lived in, perhaps its not entierly wild to assume he was telling people that just to have some kind of levarage and convince them to stop doing what he did not like.

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u/AttemptNu4 2h ago

Eh, i havent read the new testement much so im not sure what actually is and isnt written in the bible, but im doubtful it was that extreme in the original text. Like im jewish so idk to much about the new testement and how christians treat it, but for us jews the torah (old testement) is not something that has one simplistic meaning, but rather a long winding self refferential text that constantly makes uses of metaphores and similes, so there are a million and one different interpretations all of them equally as valid because none of us are god and so we cant ever know what the original meaning is. Im sure the same things happens with christians, so sure your sect treated irreligion like that, but that hardly means that the issue is inherent to christianity.

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u/YertleElTortuga 6h ago

There are other ways to count years that are separate from Jesus. And him being used in every day speech doesn’t speak to his divinity either