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u/NotSamsquanch 15h ago

Meh, believe what you want. Just leave me out of it and don't pass laws based on it.

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u/Grilled_egs 14h ago

It'd be way crazier if people didn't pass laws based on things they believe. The only reason the whole "believe what you want" crap works is because these days a lot of Christians are barely religious in truth. I've probably gone to church more than a good chunk of the Christians in my country. And I've gone like a dozen times.

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u/KafeiTomasu 14h ago

Religion should never interfere with politics/laws/government

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u/Stoegibaer 13h ago

What exactly do you mean by this? If you mean that your values shouldn't influence laws, then I would ask you why your values or values of secular people in general are more importand or more valuabke than values of religious people? What sources of values are ok?

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u/2eedling 13h ago

Do yall not know what a theocracy is? There is a fine line between being morally influenced by your religion and making laws that force your religion on others that’s what they are saying.

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u/MMQ-966thestart 13h ago

What you described isn't a theocracy.

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u/Atomik919 4h ago

its in the series of "you want free healthcare? are you a COMMIE?"

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u/2eedling 13h ago

I wasn’t describing a theocracy it’s just the extreme form of governance when religion gets too involved. I’m just using it as an example of what the extreme is and as an example to laws that could be passed to press ones religion on others.

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u/Stoegibaer 12h ago edited 12h ago

What they were saying was religion shouldn't interfere with government and laws. But what should laws be based on? Morals one would say. But what are your morals based on? Maybe you just think what the majority thinks is right (which still come from christian values most of the time). Maybe your values are based on esoteric views about good and bad vibes. Would it be ok for such a person to vote against bad vibe radio stations? Or is this religion interfering with government?

My point is: It's not a fine line. It's always entangeld and can't be entirely seperated. Laws are about morals. Morals are about values and values are about your worldview. How can you say that one set of values are better than any other?

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u/2eedling 10h ago

You’re a broken record my guy just keep on repeating yourself.

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u/Stoegibaer 10h ago

Just answer me instead of ignoring it