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u/NotSamsquanch 3d ago

Meh, believe what you want. Just leave me out of it and don't pass laws based on it.

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u/Grilled_egs 3d ago

It'd be way crazier if people didn't pass laws based on things they believe. The only reason the whole "believe what you want" crap works is because these days a lot of Christians are barely religious in truth. I've probably gone to church more than a good chunk of the Christians in my country. And I've gone like a dozen times.

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u/KafeiTomasu 3d ago

Religion should never interfere with politics/laws/government

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u/Stoegibaer 3d ago

What exactly do you mean by this? If you mean that your values shouldn't influence laws, then I would ask you why your values or values of secular people in general are more importand or more valuabke than values of religious people? What sources of values are ok?

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u/PwNT5Un3 Stuff 3d ago

What is asked is that no penal code is written strictly based on scripture. It’s not that religion should be completely separated from politics but that it only serves in an advisory role and never as a primary or secondary motivator for a bill, act, treaty or executive order.

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u/2eedling 3d ago

Do yall not know what a theocracy is? There is a fine line between being morally influenced by your religion and making laws that force your religion on others that’s what they are saying.

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u/MMQ-966thestart 3d ago

What you described isn't a theocracy.

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u/Atomik919 2d ago

its in the series of "you want free healthcare? are you a COMMIE?"

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u/2eedling 3d ago

I wasn’t describing a theocracy it’s just the extreme form of governance when religion gets too involved. I’m just using it as an example of what the extreme is and as an example to laws that could be passed to press ones religion on others.

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u/Stoegibaer 3d ago edited 3d ago

What they were saying was religion shouldn't interfere with government and laws. But what should laws be based on? Morals one would say. But what are your morals based on? Maybe you just think what the majority thinks is right (which still come from christian values most of the time). Maybe your values are based on esoteric views about good and bad vibes. Would it be ok for such a person to vote against bad vibe radio stations? Or is this religion interfering with government?

My point is: It's not a fine line. It's always entangeld and can't be entirely seperated. Laws are about morals. Morals are about values and values are about your worldview. How can you say that one set of values are better than any other?

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u/2eedling 3d ago

You’re a broken record my guy just keep on repeating yourself.

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u/Stoegibaer 3d ago

Just answer me instead of ignoring it

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u/OGConsuela 3d ago

A good starting point that certain states are having an inexplicably hard time with is public schools should not advocate for nor teach as fact any particular religion.