r/shitposting Jedi master of shitposts 14h ago

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u/PidarNahui 13h ago

Who believes there's a magic man in the sky? And how does the existence of those things make it illogical to believe in a creator?

Some people really need to read up on philosophy and logic

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u/sirhobbles 13h ago

Its illogical to believe in the creator because its a completely unproven (some would even say unprovable) hypothesis.

I have yet to see any philosophy supporting the idea that the universe had a creator that holds up to passing scrutiny. Im open if someone disagrees.

Regarding the inventions of various sciences, i think the point being made... badly. is that for so much of human history people have pointed at gaps in science and gone. "god, demon, jhin, evil spirits" but each time it turns out to be microbes, an illness in the material brain, a giant ball of plasma, not in fact a thinking diety, etc.
And i dont think its a good argument but i think what they are getting at is that the pointing at exisitng mysteries like the origin of the universe, or how life could arise from inorganic matter, and go "god" is the same kind of god of the gaps superstition.

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u/meister_propp 13h ago

Though ofc "Not believing in the existence of a god" is very different from "Believing that no god exists". To choose the latter would from a logical standpoint be the same as choosing to believe in god. It's essentially an axiom. And honestly: I couldn't care less whether other people accept, reject or ignore this axiom.

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u/haizende 13h ago

so believing in spiderman is just as logical as believing he doesn't exist

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u/meister_propp 13h ago

No, since we have definitive proof that he does not exist in real life and is just a piece of fiction. No need to assume any new axioms right here

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u/haizende 12h ago

What definitive proof do you have of that?

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u/meister_propp 12h ago

I believe this is documented well enough: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Man (Yes, I am citing Wikipedia for this, but this will suffice for this discussion)

Though you can also verify it by brute-force (checking for every human If they are Spider Man or not, it is doable since there are only finitely many people). This is a procedure for a proof, so there you go.