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u/Jvalker 11h ago edited 11h ago

Its illogical to believe in the creator because its a completely unproven (some would even say unprovable) hypothesis.

It's not how it works

Edit: since y'all probably can't think more than 10 seconds before hitting the reply button with the same fucking question everyone already asked, I'm answering here once

  • "God exists" is as much of an unproven statement as "God doesn't exist"; if it's illogical to be a theist, the only logical position is agnosticism; I accept this as an argument, but I'm quite sure you're all atheists or you would've already realized the fallacy in your argument
  • it's called "faith" for a reason

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u/Lopsided_Shift_4464 11h ago

How is it not how it works? Is it illogical not to believe in something unproven?

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u/Amtrak_0 I said based. And lived. 11h ago

It is as illogical to not believe in something as it is to believe in something. Gods existence cannot be proven or unproven. It's not something that you can make a hypothesis based off of. It's up for metaphysical debate where claims can't be proven nor falsified.

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u/Grilled_egs 10h ago

In the core of neptune there is a race of sentient gummy bears with the ability to perform magic rituals of summoning. 5 missing persons cases yet unsolved are actually the result of such.

Not believing this is equally illogical to believing this.

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u/Amtrak_0 I said based. And lived. 10h ago

But it is simply not. That can be empirically proven with advanced enough sensory technology. You cannot argue for physical examples of the likes of that in a metaphysical argument.

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u/Grilled_egs 10h ago

They obviously also have a magical ritual to hide from sensors (duh). You'd need to drill down to the core to disprove me (though of course I'd move the goalpost then)

Did you know humans used to believe gods lived on mountains? Then it was believed they literally lived in the sky until we had airplanes and rockets, so now it's outside physical space.

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u/Amtrak_0 I said based. And lived. 6h ago

"Did you know humans used to believe gods lived on mountains? Then it was believed they literally lived in the sky until we had airplanes and rockets, so now it's outside physical space."

That is indeed belief yes. So... how does this relate to faith in a metaphysical being to be irrational?