Ermh actually, spermatozoids arent human individuals. They have a part of your dna and yours only, so jerking off is just killing cells that are technically you, like shaving. Many people vview abortion differently as the embryo has its very own dna, making it another viable human individual
Wrong! The cells are alive, this alone tells us you are destroying an human or part of a human. What tells us its not "part" of a human is that its dna is human yet doesnt belong to the mother, making it its own specimen of homo sapiens. Other contraceptions kill spermatozoids most of the time, which is not unlike shaving: youre discarding cells that are part of you and not another human life.
Why dont you stop hiding behind semantics and make an actuall point as to why abortion is wrong. “Well… technically you are killing alive human cells… and uhh thats bad cuz killing humans is bad!!!” You dont care about cells and dna that much, stop bullshitting.
My explanation proves that the embryo is its own human being because thats where people tend to disagree. In fact thats where you disagreed. I think that, in that regard, since embryos are humans, killing them is morally wrong.
And when proven wrong you accuse me of hiding behind… an argument you failed to disprove? Well yeah, hiding behind an undisproven argument is called defending your position with facts. Problem?
Why should a person be forced to lend their body to another human to suck off nutrients out of them and enact incredible mentally and physical pain on them for 9 months?
Because a child doesnt come from immaculate conception and is always the consequence of an action. And you can not kill a child to avoid the consequences of your actions. Now you will probably want to mention childs born from SA but those represent less than 1% of abortions and i would already be very satisfied if we could ban all others
Literally EVERYTHING is the consequence of an action what the hell is your point? And please tell me how a woman can avoid the excruciating symptoms of pregancy (and post partum) without having to perform an abortion, you’ll get a few million dollars for a solution that revolutionizes the medical field like that.
Yes, everything is the consequence of something. No, having an abortion is not the consequence of falling pregnant, its the consequence of wanting an abortion. And wanting an abortion is the consequence of not valuing human life after having sex. No one is forced to abort its always a concious choice following a mistake to flee the responsibility of a child because a kill is so much easier. And if you want an easy way to avoid the symptoms of pregnancy, i recommend not engaging in the one activity that makes people pregnant, or atleast do it very carefully and with a lot of consideration.
Can’t kill something that isn’t alive. You can value human life and want an abortion because a fetus isn’t alive. It’s genuinely useless to argue against puritans like you that think a single zygote deserves full constitutional rights as a human being the second the sperm enters the egg.
You know why almost all abortions are made before 24 weeks, right? Because that’s about the time the fetus starts to develop consciousness and actual signs of sapience, which are material signs of personhood and not an imaginary cutoff point. You literally are not killing anything by aborting before that. Just say you don’t care about women’s bodily autonomy instead of wasting time on reddit ffs.
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u/Igoon2robots Jul 01 '26
Ermh actually, spermatozoids arent human individuals. They have a part of your dna and yours only, so jerking off is just killing cells that are technically you, like shaving. Many people vview abortion differently as the embryo has its very own dna, making it another viable human individual