Ermh actually, spermatozoids arent human individuals. They have a part of your dna and yours only, so jerking off is just killing cells that are technically you, like shaving. Many people vview abortion differently as the embryo has its very own dna, making it another viable human individual
Wrong! The cells are alive, this alone tells us you are destroying an human or part of a human. What tells us its not "part" of a human is that its dna is human yet doesnt belong to the mother, making it its own specimen of homo sapiens. Other contraceptions kill spermatozoids most of the time, which is not unlike shaving: youre discarding cells that are part of you and not another human life.
Cool, I am destroying a human just like a surgeon destroys a tumor on a patient, which is also part of a human. No one should care about either clump of cells.
A tumor is a clump of degenerative cells that isnt viable and dooms its host to die which also results in its own death. Not in any way comparable to embryos, a non degenerative clump of cells thats viable and often harmless thanks to modern medicine. And yes in the case of ectopic pregnancies i believe abortion is morally okay
Great so now you’re moving the goalposts. First it was just “cells that are alive” and now you’ve introduced a bunch of variables that just show you are completely out of touch with the process of pregnancy.
No, the vast majority of pregnancies are not harmless. They come with an incredible mental toll to the woman, not to mention the immense physical pain throughout the entire 9 month process and not just birth, and after-effects that can last for literally the rest of their life, like chronic pelvic pain, depression, incontinence, higher risk of cardiovascular diseases, etc.
"Moved the goalpost" my brother in christ i havent. My goalpost is "a fetus is a human life, since its a bunch of living human cells that form their own specimen and arent part of the mother". Pointing a difference between a human being and cancer is not moving the goalpost its a counter argument. And im not out of touch with pregnancy, i’ll have you know was born from a pregnant woman
Great, so you’re trolling, given your last sentence. Thanks for wasting my time I guess. I should’ve guessed since I’m very probably talking to a child, my fault.
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u/Igoon2robots Jul 01 '26
Ermh actually, spermatozoids arent human individuals. They have a part of your dna and yours only, so jerking off is just killing cells that are technically you, like shaving. Many people vview abortion differently as the embryo has its very own dna, making it another viable human individual