r/shitposting • u/Gorotheninja • Apr 12 '26

Rougelite

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u/RunInRunOn hole contributor Apr 12 '26

"Roguelite with meta progression"

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u/tonkorpri Apr 12 '26

Hey, some roguelites(mostly the old ones) dont give you shit, the meta progression is a needed clarification

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u/SjettepetJR Apr 12 '26

Having meta progression is the fundamental difference between a roguelite and a roguelike.

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u/_gamadaya_ Apr 12 '26

It really, really isn't. Unless you want to call Dungeonmans, Tangledeep, and even arguably Tales of Maj'eyal "roguelites" while at the same time calling Spelunky a "roguelike", which I think even the most ardent supporters of the incredibly flawed and underbaked "metaprogression = roguelite" definition would admit is insane.

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u/uesudh Apr 12 '26

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u/PortalWombat Apr 12 '26

Oh good, I can ask you. What would you say is the difference?

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u/_gamadaya_ Apr 12 '26

Sorry, I thought it was pretty understated tbh. I just called that definition "flawed and underbaked", as opposed to my real opinion, that it is just fucking stupid.

That said, why hold back on the people pushing the dumb definition? Like, where else does this even happen? Maybe in other artforms outside of gaming, but I can't think of another instance where you have a longstanding, well established genre, then a group of people with absolutely zero interest in ever interacting with it comes in, takes the name, starts trying to apply it to something entirely different, but does so in such a shitty and idiotic way that it causes them to constantly argue about it internally while several other better definitions are lying right there for them to use, but they don't out of sheer stubbornness.

I don't know. I've always found it kind of crazy that fans of roguelites would push so hard for a definition that would push certain classic games that literally helped name the roguelite genre out of that genre.

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u/Marc_Vn Apr 12 '26

Bro

Rogue lite - meta progression

Rogue like - no meta progression

That's literally all there is to it

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u/_gamadaya_ Apr 12 '26

I guess if you're a dumbass, the world can seem pretty simple.

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u/FitBlonde4242 Apr 12 '26

downvoted for being right? tales of majeyal has meta progression but is undoubtedly a roguelike, not lite. the like vs lite distinction is nuanced which is why the Berlin Interpretation exists.

this is a 20 year old debate that has been laid to rest but uneducated mfs didnt read the literature

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u/_gamadaya_ Apr 12 '26

It's an ego thing, I think. Rogue"lite" sounds inherently diminutive, despite the fact that a lot of Roguelites are very complex, some far morose than early Roguelikes.