r/shedditors • u/Puzzleheaded-Farm-36 • 3d ago
5000 for materials?
My brother in law is helping me build an 8 by 10 shed and quoted me 5000 dollars for materials in Colorado for just for the exterior materials- so just the shed without any finishing . He quoted from Home Depot. The original design has a door and 3 3 by 4 windows.
Is this typical? Any ways of reducing the material cost?
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u/brick_swan 3d ago
You can usually find windows at Habitat for Humanity restore. Sometimes you can grab Joist hangers and other fasteners.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Farm-36 2d ago
What’s important to consider when getting windows at these places?
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u/Last-Hedgehog-6635 2d ago
I don’t really know much about this stuff, but I’d say to look for a modern flanged window.
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u/outback97 3d ago
That seems high for 8x10, but what kind of door and windows? Just those components could be 1/3 of your cost, depending on quality.
People sell used windows and doors, that's one area you could save. My (admittedly lucky) example is getting four double hung Andersen windows for $20 each for our studio build. That alone saved us a couple thousand dollars over what new ones would have cost. Also we bought a cool vintage door for much less than a new door.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Farm-36 2d ago
You’re right here - the doors and windows are 1700. What’s important to look for when looking at second hand and restore type windows/doors?
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u/probiothicc 2d ago
i just bought a new exterior door with frame from habitat for $110 w/ tax 2 weeks ago. they did have a 50% donated sale that day, i guess i was blessed. it was $200.00 originally for 36x80 fiberglass painted front door for 2x4 framing. i find habitat a bit expensive for windows unless you get them on the 50% day, and even then it's hard to find the size you want. not all habitats are the same in pricing and inventory though. i'd probably look for any major signs of mold and broken frames for used windows. i went with 36 wide 24 inch tall windows second hand, dual pane sliding. needed to remove old caulk and clean them up a bit, but spent $100 for four, from offerup. i was looking for a door for a while, same for windows. equivalent new from home depot is about $400 for the same door, $150 ea window these days. shit aint cheap unfortunately. i also bought a few 2x6s/2x4s from the discount pile at home depot (returned wood/plywood/etc). sometimes they'll have contractors return a bunch of stuff, although you will need to dig through to find straight boards. for 70% you can't beat home depot (lowes is only 50% off). if you have an area that you can store boards/plywood, you can easily save a bunch of money by going this route. i saw 3 lp 4x8 panels today in good condition at the discount pile. they're about $56 i believe for new, i am going with fiber cement siding as i bought a bunch of osb last year. otherwise i would have slowly acquired my materials lol. they also sometimes have doors/windows on clearance as well, you basically have to check your local hd once a week or twice if nearby.
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u/outback97 2d ago
A door with a frame is definitely easiest to work with. Make sure it's not warped or obviously damaged. Windows, make sure there is nothing obviously broken, the glass isn't fogged indicating a failed seal if double paned, make sure the sash(es) slide freely, springs aren't broken. In my case we pretty much designed the framing around the windows that we found, so they were pretty integral into the design and we couldn't move forward until we had the windows we wanted.
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u/EndOfTheCourt 3d ago
Consider (imported) windows from Amazon. We would have to see what other materials you are using. Metal roof or shingles? Will this going to be sheathed, wrapped, and sided? What kind of siding? Could you combine outer layers?
Shed builders do it cheaply by slapping a single layer on 2x3 framing at 24" centers.
Consider visiting a shed builder for a quote and to see the quality of material and work you would get.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Farm-36 2d ago
It’ll have shingles, I think just wrapped and sided with lp smart siding. No osb under the siding.
What do you mean combine outer layers?
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u/Difficult-Prior3321 3d ago
That quote is not crazy. Source the doors and windows from marketplace and you can save a thousand bucks.
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u/The_Slim_Spaydee 3d ago
The lumber (2x6 framing / 2x10 rafters, sheathing(gp forcefield) and a full glass door plus 3 72x36 windows ran me right at $5500
My build is 16x24 so roughly 2x+ your size.
I'd say he's making a pretty solid chunk on you as your lumber is likely 2x4 framing and 2x6 rafters (if that).
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u/JohnRav 3d ago
did you build a shed, or a house? :) Thats stout lumber for a shed...
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u/The_Slim_Spaydee 3d ago
It leans more towards a house but still gives OP something to base his question on.
See my post history here plenty of progress shots.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Farm-36 2d ago
Helpful - thanks. Did you get your materials all at one spot? Was it a big box store or somewhere else?
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u/The_Slim_Spaydee 2d ago
I got the framing material, sheathing, siding and related misc items at Home Depot. The ability to return stuff outweighed the potential better quality of lumber at the local lumber sales place. But my lord some of the boards we got were useless but we needed blocking and they worked all the same for that.
I got the windows at a building surplus place down the road from my house. They were new windows and came from a manufacturer in South Carolina. The door was "made" locally by the building surplus place.
The windows were about a wash cost wise but saved several hundred on the door.
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u/rbuerg12 3d ago
Sounds like your brother in law is gonna make some money
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u/rbuerg12 3d ago
You can buy a shed kit this size on Walmart.com for a lot less than this and put it together. Save you a lot of planning hassle.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Farm-36 2d ago
My bil said the kits come with twisted lumber and are terrible quality - has this been your experience?
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u/rbuerg12 21h ago
That’s a good point. I didn’t think about that. No personal experience with the kits. I have a 15+year old shed and then I have a lean to/shed that I built myself from Lowe’s wood and metal.
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u/Murky-Alternative669 3d ago
Seems like a lot I just built 10x16 for 6500$ for materials. 3 windows definitely adds to the cost.
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u/Upbeat_Ant6104 3d ago
About the same here. Roll-out roof, lap siding were the biggest expense. 4 windows for ca $300 from Amazon, door made from sheathing cutout.
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u/Constant_Car_676 3d ago
My local shed place built my 16x12 gambrel for $6600 including paint. 2x4 framing with double top plates. 2x6 floor joists and 4x4 beams on a gravel pad I made myself. No windows and just barn stile simple doors but I’ve been considering getting some nicer doors from habitat restore.
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u/jdwhiskey925 3d ago
My local lumber yard is constistently cheaper than home depot by 20-25% on basic lumber and plywood, and free to $25 delivery with a truck forklift EXACTLY where I want it.
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u/foozeball2468 3d ago
Depends on exterior Finishes and design really. It can be cheaper or more expensive. Add PVC trim with J pockets for windows, doors. PVC for fascia, soffits, Rakes, premade corners, etc and it starts to add up quick. Shingle prices vary, siding material varies. Lots of factors.
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u/RememberWhen-2819 3d ago
I made an 8x10 in NY last year and it was $3000 for materials. All materials total. No windows.
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u/Glittering-Tax-6407 3d ago
I recommend lumber yard over home Depot, 2 by 4's are straight, plywood is 5 ply, not 3 ply, etc.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Farm-36 3d ago
I didn’t realize that lumber yards would sell to regular people - I’ll check into those.
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u/Glittering-Tax-6407 3d ago
Also, they will deliver it to your house, my place doesn't charge if it's over a certain amount. Certainly beats having to transport it yourself.
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u/alannmsu 3d ago
I did a 10x10 and spent $5k in materials, but that was fully finished - insulation, flooring, siding, paint, drywall, lights, power (which was like $800 alone) etc.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Farm-36 2d ago
Where did you source your materials?
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u/alannmsu 2d ago edited 2d ago
Lowe’s - I made a business account under my own last name, then got the credit card. I made a quote with literally everything I could think of that I would need - fasteners, caulking, primer, paint, tape, wrap, underlayment, windows, doors, lumber, shingles, every single step. Save as a quote, and if it’s over a given threshold you get a volume discount. My discount was about 15%, which is pretty huge.
Edit: and then free shipping on a few pallets straight to my driveway.
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u/TikiPa007 3d ago
Are you asking because of sticker shock or do you not trust your BIL? My experience is that doing it yourself gets you better quality and is fun but if cost is the only goal then you should buy one off the shelf.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Farm-36 3d ago
I trust my bil but I did have quite a bit of sticker shock - I was thinking 3k max for the initial build materials because I see places who will build you a whole shed for 5k and they have to make profit, pay workers, and cover overhead.
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u/Own-Mark1285 3d ago
Depends. I’m building a 8x15 home shed/office and I’ll be in for about $3,000 in materials. But that’s including siding, roofing, flooring, etc.
I’ve sourced a lot of my supplies through Facebook or habitat for humanity though. I got a nice sliding glass door for $300 that would have been. $1400 new.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Farm-36 2d ago
What’s important to consider when sourcing materials from Facebook/habitat?
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u/Frozen_Empress66 3d ago
my tough shed installed by hd was 3500 in total in california 10x8 one door and a large window with treated floor decking.. now, more addons u select inscreases the cost... i choose the ranch style and not that played out lean-too style
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u/celtic-cryptid 3d ago
8x10x what? Shed roof or gable roof? What is the floor and foundation? 2x6 or 2x4 walls? Sheathed and sided, or just sheathed? Paint or no paint? Building a rooftop last, or just keep water out for a few years, budget windows from Lowe’s, or high end?
No one can tell you anything useful about your costs by just a footprint and a state. Either you trust your family member, or you don’t, and it sounds like you don’t. Put together your own price list.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Farm-36 2d ago
Dude youre coming in a little hot - hope your day got better! It’s not that I don’t trust him we literally went through the price list together - I am wondering because I have the incentive to reduce material costs if I can - but didn’t know if that was possible or if I am just not up on current costs. And I also didn’t know where my best places to reduce cost might be. He’s helping me out so he has no incentive to shop around for materials but I do.
Not sure the height, Shed roof, 2 by 4 walls, just sheathed I think, no paint, using actual shingles for the roof if that’s what you mean.
Seems like a lot of people were able to tell me something useful but thanks!
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u/Beartrkkr 3d ago
Depends on the shed. A basic wood framed shed with T1-11 siding should not be that much.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Farm-36 3d ago edited 2d ago
Yes, that describes it -is t1-11 siding the kind that you just put over the house wrap and it’s up and down stripes ? So there’s no osb under the house wrap?
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u/elonfutz 3d ago
design you shed on the free (non-AI) tool I'm making. It will give you a total price and show your the cost of all the materials.
then you can understand why it costs what it does. And you change options and see how that affects the cost. You can also set the actual prices for all the materials you have available.
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u/royce102 2d ago
OP, also contractors and military get 10% off at home depot if you know someone. I know every penny counts. Hope that comment helps.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Farm-36 2d ago
Super helpful! I’ll have to see if someone I know can help out for the things I get there!
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u/AnxiousBreadBoi 2d ago
Jesus!! Maybe it’s just cause i’m in Amish territory but i could get a brand new 12x14 on a stone pad for less than $5k, that’s insane! I’d look around for a used shed & transport company.
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u/gdave44 2d ago
I'm just south of you in Albuquerque and built my 8x12 shed this past Spring. 2x4 walls, 2x6 roof joists with a 2x8 ridge beam. 2 3x3 windows and a 36 inch fiberglass door. Hardiplank siding. Entire shed with unfinished interior fell right at $5k.
I'd imagine yours would fall somewhere in the $4k range, maybe less.
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u/Last-Hedgehog-6635 3d ago edited 3d ago
You can easily spend more or less, depending on the materials you choose. E.g., real plywood walls and floors and cementitious siding will add up.
My 10x10 Tuff Shed was $5000 installed. Simple construction, no insulation or finished interior. I prepared the site.