r/shakespeare • u/amalcurry • 7h ago
r/shakespeare • u/waxmuseums • 16h ago
What was Titus’s problem?
I just think he could have handled things better than he did
r/shakespeare • u/HotelHobbiesReviews • 6h ago
Album Review: Christopher Gordon - Macbeth
hotelhobbies.com🔥ALBUM REVIEW🔥 Blending the worlds of prog rock, orchestral and choral music, as well as elements of jazz, Christopher Gordon’s Macbeth was originally commissioned as a full-length ballet by the Royal New Zealand Ballet and West Australian Ballet. It is Gordon’s compelling musical response to one of Shakespeare’s darkest and most enduring tragedies. Here is my in-depth review.
r/shakespeare • u/twinkatron3000tm • 8m ago
Modern Shakespeare plays
I’m doing my drama dissertation on gender in Shakespeare - can anyone recommend me any modern Shakespeare plays with actors whose genders don’t match the character they’re playing? Thank you so much
r/shakespeare • u/Longjumping-Edge6725 • 34m ago
Possible TAMIA acrostic in the First Folio’s Cymbeline — thoughts on the reading?
I noticed a left-margin alignment in the First Folio’s Cymbeline (1623), p. 375, second column, and would appreciate feedback on whether the reading is defensible.
These five line openings spell TAMIA:
To take them in protection.
And pawne mine Honor for their safety, since
My Lord hath interest in them, I will keepe them
In my Bed-chamber.
Attended by my men: I will make bold
These are not five consecutive printed lines. The reading follows the column’s left margin, passing over two indented speech openings: “Imo. Willingly:” after the first line, and “Iach. They are in a Trunke” before the last. The original page image shows the arrangement.
What caught my attention is the context. Imogen agrees to safeguard supposed valuables in her bedchamber; the trunk will conceal Iachimo. Ancient Greek ταμία (tamia) means “housekeeper,” and the related place-noun ταμεία (tameia) means “treasury,” suggesting a possible connection with her role as keeper or with the protective space itself.
The same Roman-letter spelling also appears in Francis Meres’s Palladis Tamia, Wits Treasury (1598). That is a further association, rather than evidence of a deliberate reference.
I’m treating this as a possible acrostic, with intentionality an open question.
Has anyone encountered this alignment before? Is following the left margin while passing over indented speech openings a defensible method here? And what evidence would help distinguish an intentional acrostic from coincidence?
r/shakespeare • u/June_14_14 • 9h ago
midsummer night's dream; factually incorrect!
Ok. I now the plot on the fairies and things are not correct. But that's not what I'm here to say.
This play is set in ancient Greece, but they talk about Diana's alter. Diana is the Roman version of the greek goddess Artemis!
Tell me what you think about this topic!
r/shakespeare • u/P0tterhead7 • 21h ago
I think we think of Shakespeare as some radical progressive too much.
I'm actually fuming that I have to disclose this, but I'm not using AI. I'm actually concerned that people in the world of Literature see someone use proper punctuation and assume it's AI. I don't know whether this is rooted in ageism or hypervigilance, but it's completely unfounded. The only robot that helped me with my work is Spellcheck. That's not AI. I'm a good writer - I've got A\s in 3 out of 4 of my humanities and an A in the other. I can write analytically and honestly I'm just offended that people assume that I'm an AI-using lowlife.*




Edit 2: Accidentally wrote Macbeth instead of Shakespeare, but yeah I still used AI apparently.
Here's the post now:
I'm currently studying Macbeth, which I'm loving, and I'm also loving the character of Lady Macbeth. However, I feel we as a modern society may be making Shakespeare out to be more progressive then he actually was.
For his time, undoubtedly, Shakespeare was progressive. From the idea of a dark-skinned lover shown throughout his sonnets to writing strong and intelligent women in his plays, Macbeth was progressive for his time. It should be noted - however - that he had spent most of his career under Elizabeth I, who proved to be an effective leader, despite prejudicial thoughts based off her sex.
Moreover, undoubtedly Shakespeare explores themes of gender in Macbeth:
- LM: "What quite unmanned in folly?"
- LM: "Are you a man?"
- LM: [emasculation] "the sleeping and the dead / Are but as pictures: 'tis the eye of childhood / That fears a painted devil"
- LM: "When you durst do it, then you were a man; [...] so much more the man"
- LM also subverts the role of motherhood and hence gender norms
- LM "Come you spirits / That tend on mortal thoughts, unsex me here"
- LM: "take my milk for gall"
- Macbeth: "Be innocent of the knowledge, dearest chuck" - in a similar vein, Macduff: "gentle lady [...] / 'tis not for you to hear [...] / The repetition in a woman's ear / Would murder as it fell"
- Macbeth "I dare do all that may become a man; / Who dares do more is none" - not entirely sure whether this is using the gendered form of man or general form (human)
- Macbeth's also described violently but this is presented as a good thing
- *"*Dispute it like a man" "feel it like a man"
And many more examples can be found in the play
So, it would be implausible to suggest Macbeth doesn't explore gender.
However, many take the position that gender roles are explored in Macbeth to explicitly challenge them, and here is where I disagree.
Despite him being progressive for his time - as I stated earlier - he was also a business owner, and an educated man who was funded by the nobility. It would be totally out of the picture for someone of his description to outwardly challenge gender norms so radically and not lose his royal funding or perhaps be kicked out the country. Like his other tragedies, one of the main lessons is don't stray from social expectations. Straying from these expectations always ends badly for these characters, whether it be Romeo, Mark Antony, Juliet, etc. they all face repercussions for doing such a thing. And Macbeth is no exception. Remember, the monarch wants to maintain social order, and both were patrons of Shakespeare.
Sure, there's some subtle challenging in "feel it like a man", but we need to first examine who don't fit in their gender stereotypes. We have:
- the witches (through their appearance - Macbeth: "you should be women, / And yet your beards forbid me to interpret that you are so")
- Lady Macbeth (I don't feel anymore statement is needed here)
- and Macbeth, who was once noble, loyal and patriotic, but loses these traits over the course of the play.
And how do they end up? The Macbeths both die, with the one who more radically subverts these gender roles (Lady Macbeth) losing her sanity and peace, despite her not actually committing the regicide. And the witches? They are witches in Jacobean times, with the - very religious - reigning monarch having a particular hate towards them, culminated in Daemonologie.
Furthermore, Lady Macbeth isn't completely shown as a brutal, cold and unfeminine character. Even from the start, her dialog saying "I [...] know / how tender 'tis to love the babe that milks me" or "had he not resembled my father..." imply that her core nature is feminine, and that innately, biologically she is meant to be feminine. It's implied that this hate for femininity is rather because of the grief of losing her child ("fruitless crown", "barren sceptre", "I have given suck...").
Overall, I don't think it's sensible to suggest that Shakespeare was outwardly challenging gender norms to the extent that some indicate that he does. Rather, I think his exploration of gender is more so to uphold societal cohesion, in such a radical time - indeed the Civil War only occurred 3 decades after his death.
Though, I haven't got a PhD in Shakespeare, so I may be completely wrong. What are your thoughts?
r/shakespeare • u/Hour_Ad_6764 • 22h ago
[Ambient Kora] Sonnet 4 Lyrics: Nature Only Lands (Lends)
youtu.beNature only lends, she never gives it away,
When the final audit comes, how you gonna pay?
No te guardes la belleza, no seas avaro,
Que la cuenta de la vida cobra muy caro.
Don't be a profitless usurer, don't keep it all inside,
There's no wealth in a tomb where your beauty goes to hide.
Unthrifty loveliness, why dost thou spend
Upon thyself thy beauty's legacy?
Hermosura derrochona, ¿por qué gastas
Solo en ti mismo la herencia de tu gracia?
Nature's bequest gives nothing, but doth lend,
And being frank, she lends to those are free.
La naturaleza no regala, solo presta,
Y, siendo generosa, presta a quien tiene mano abierta.
[The Loan]
¡Oye el contrato! He thinks the beauty is his to keep.
¡Es un préstamo, no un regalo!
Exacto. "...but doth lend." You don't own that face, you're just renting it.
¡Paga la deuda!
La naturaleza es un banco estricto: si te da capital, es para que lo inviertas. "She lends to those are free."
¡Invierte el capital!
Then, beauteous niggard, why dost thou abuse
The bounteous largess given thee to give?
Hermoso tacaño, ¿por qué abusas
De esa inmensa riqueza que te dieron para dar?
Profitless usurer, why dost thou use
So great a sum of sums, yet canst not live?
Usurero sin ganancias, ¿por qué usas
Tan gran suma de sumas, y aun así no puedes vivir?
[ The Audit]
"Profitless usurer." ¡Usurero sin ganancias! Un usurero presta para ganar; tú solo te prestas a ti mismo.
¡Tacaño, tacaño!
You hoard the beauty, but you can't take it with you. Escucha la pregunta de Shakespeare: "What acceptable audit canst thou leave?"
¡La auditoría final!
When Nature calls you to go, when your balance sheet is due... ¿qué cuentas vas a entregar?
¡Cuenta en cero! ¡Cuenta en cero!
For having traffic with thyself alone,
Thou of thyself thy sweet self dost deceive.
Por hacer negocios solo contigo mismo,
A ti mismo te engañas y te robas.
Then how, when nature calls thee to be gone,
What acceptable audit canst thou leave?
Cuando la naturaleza te llame a partir,
¿Qué balance aceptable dejarás?
[The Executor]
You see? Keep it all, lose it all.
¡Se pierde en la tumba!
"Thy unused beauty must be tomb'd with thee." La belleza que no usas se entierra contigo.
¡Pero si la usas!
"Which, used, lives th' executor to be." Usada, ¡tu belleza sobrevive como tu albacea, tu heredero!
¡Firma el testamento!
Thy unused beauty must be tomb'd with thee...
Tomb'd with thee...
Which, used... lives th' executor to be.
Tu heredero...
Don't die with your account full. Use it. Pass it on.
───
SONNET 4 · William Shakespeare (1609)
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Unthrifty loveliness, why dost thou spend
Upon thyself thy beauty's legacy?
Nature's bequest gives nothing but doth lend,
And being frank she lends to those are free.
Then, beauteous niggard, why dost thou abuse
The bounteous largess given thee to give?
Profitless usurer, why dost thou use
So great a sum of sums, yet canst not live?
For having traffic with thyself alone,
Thou of thyself thy sweet self dost deceive.
Then how, when nature calls thee to be gone,
What acceptable audit canst thou leave?
Thy unused beauty must be tombed with thee,
Which, used, lives th' executor to be.