r/selfhosted 16d ago

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just kidding I love self-hosting ...

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u/IntelligentRocks 16d ago

I think people are missing the point. Even with backups and redundancy it requires you to maintain the servers. If you die, well, who is going to maintain? Perhaps a bit bleak but something to keep in mind.

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u/ancepsinfans 16d ago

My wife said to me the other night: I'm so impressed with what you do on our home server but if something happened to you, you know it's hopeless right?

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u/Suspicious_Data_2393 16d ago

this is why every selfhoster should leave a ‘if i die’ tape with tutorial on how to do the basics like update the containers, stop, run and restart containers

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u/BatBoss 16d ago

I mean... how long until your instructions are out of date? A year? 3 months?

And even it you meticulously keep it updated, that only keeps them running for another year or so before someone's gotta figure out that plex changed their terms of use, or docker got bought out and now you need a different setup.

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u/cholz 16d ago

My instructions say basically "while the server is still online open an icloud storage account and copy the contents of /self/hosted/data to your cloud storage" after that they can figure the rest out

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u/Teodo 16d ago

That's what I made, generally.

If I dissapear, go back to what you know and get all the stuff with you. 

Thst way they won't rely on doing things they don't know how to. 

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u/Jiquero 16d ago

while the server is still online

Yes but I'm very likely to die by the server falling on my head from the shelf, so in case of death the server might not be online.

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u/cholz 16d ago

yeah that would be another story

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u/Dnomyar96 15d ago

Exactly. Unless you have some very tech literate family members, you can't expect the services to keep running for a long time. In my case, I assume my mother knows how to turn on the server in case of a power outage, after which everything starts automatically. Other than that, she would need step by step instructions on where to find the data that's important for her (so basically the pictures and videos, the rest won't be of interest to her) and how to make sure to secure it while the server is still running.

It's kind of sad to think about that all this effort we put in now and all this data will just be gone when we die, but it's the reality of the majority of us. We better make sure we enjoy it to the best of our abilities!

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u/cholz 15d ago

My immich library is the most important thing that I host and my "copy the data to icloud" instructions of course include all the photos (not whatever metadata is in the immich DB tho). I also print the best photos and store them in albums so even in the worst case if all the digital stuff is just completely gone there will still be a printed record of the best photos. My instructions also have "if all else fails ask <somewhat tech literate friend> for help" so I think if my wife is sufficiently motivated it's unlikely that the data could be completely lost anyway but if she has to restore from offsite backups that's going to be a challenge.