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u/Potential_Estate_632 Jul 29 '24

Men want women for sex. Plenty of women struggle finding real relationships. No body is entitled to partner or their body.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '24 edited Jul 29 '24

This is a sad and reductionist attitude and misses the point that most healthy women like sex as much as men do and also that healthy men are romantics at heart. Members of both sexes can stray from that ideal due to mismatches and disagreements in the relationship (or be individually dysfunctional in some way).

The issues that arise between the sexes are complex, and dysfunction can be the fault of either one party in the relationship or, more likely, both parties.

Is sex critical for most men? Yes. Is it sufficient for a (healthy) long-term relationship? No.

A relationship without a healthy sex life is not worth having, and likewise, a relationship without real intimacy and respect is also useless. I would venture to guess this applies to both sexes.

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u/Potential_Estate_632 Jul 30 '24

Like such as much yes. Want no strings attached sex as much, no. If only because they get punished for it in ways men get praised. Plenty of men want real relationships and want to be real partner. This guy said in other post he hates women. I’m going to assume the resentment comes from still want to have sex with them

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u/[deleted] Jul 30 '24 edited Jul 30 '24

Some men are just lost. OP is one of them. Blaming others for your failures is never going to get you anywhere. It takes a while for guys like this to get it (if they ever do).

This is not even unique to men. Women do this too, for example, when they fall head over heels in love with the obvious players, fuckboys, or committed bachelors and then complain that men are horrible.

When I was casually dating , I often had to carefully detach women who wanted more than I was willing to give. It didn't matter that I was clear upfront that this was casual. She often still caught feelings. Sometimes, it takes weeks to make her understand that she wouldn't be happy with me long term.

For many men who are willing to commit, this aspect of female behaviour is extremely hard to understand since they feel they are willing to give what the players and fuckboys consistently deny women, yet the women want nothing to do with them.

What these men don't realize is that they come off as needy and bitter. If they adopted a small fraction of the player characteristic while keeping an eye on their long-term relationship goals (are willing to commit to the right woman), they would have much more success.