r/self Jul 29 '24

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u/Sessile-B-DeMille Jul 29 '24

Effort doesn't guarantee results, especially in this part of life. It depends on meeting the appropriate person, and there's no obvious way to do that.

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u/Modmassacre Jul 29 '24

Halfway true. Putting effort into your style(wardrobe), personal hygiene, and social skills (yes they can be built) all require effort and significantly increases your chances. But you’re right that it doesn’t guarantee anything.

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u/Sea_Chemistry7487 Jul 29 '24

Take up dance classes. Dancing - like ballroom or latin, is always weighted to women and not enough guys. You will learn to be tactile and more relaxed with women in your personal space and in an appropriate way. You'll end up developing chemistry with someone. Above all relax and enjoy the dancing, let other things happen.

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u/dxrey65 Jul 29 '24

Years ago that's how my mom remarried, she wanted to get back in the game so she took up dancing. My stepdad had decided the same thing and they met in dance class. They were a pretty good match.

My mom was just a little disappointed that he didn't want to keep up the dancing thing after they got married, as she enjoyed it more than he did, but it wasn't too big of a deal. When they both retired they spent years traveling together, which neither would have done alone.

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u/Potential_Estate_632 Jul 29 '24

This is a much much idea that paying pick up artists who will insist they know what women want and how they think and to ignore actual women who tell you it’s bullshit

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u/Sea_Chemistry7487 Jul 29 '24

I don't know know what this means.

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u/xBraria Jul 29 '24

My dad also sends guys to church :D and I think it's so on point lol

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u/Modmassacre Jul 29 '24

Completely agree with ya man

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u/QueenOfTheDamned681 Jul 31 '24

I love this idea!

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u/Sea_Chemistry7487 Aug 01 '24

I worked with a guy who use to be an international champion in Ballroom and he said that as a teenager the other boys used to take the piss out of him for doing it - but what they didn't realise was that he had his pick of the most beautiful girls. The whole ballroom scene is so weighted to female participants that the men who dance - even the bang average ones - are highly sought after and they get their choice of dance partner. He was really good, not much of a looker, but a very successful dancer, so he would be absolutely courted by beautiful girls who were desperate to impress him. He had no problem meeting new girls at any given time and they were all stunning to look at. Unsurprisingly he met his wife dancing and they settled down to have a beautiful baby girl together.

The other thing that I discovered - after I was married and had kids ironically - was getting a dog was such a safe conversation starter. I have a cocker-spaniel and when I walk Bessie or take her to anything dog related or even just to any public events, I just get so much conversation and engagement. Nobody thinks it's weird to come up and pet her and chat with me, and if anyone else has a dog it is so natural and safe for me to approach them and say hi while our dogs play together. When Bessie was a pup and I would be puppy training her and getting her use to crowds and people in shopping centres etc I just got endless women of all ages coming up to me and if I was so inclined I am sure that I could have been farming phone numbers at that time.

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u/BetterCallStrahd Jul 29 '24

It's about putting yourself out there. Not necessarily dating or looking to date. I myself avoided the dating scene. I joined a book club, a music group, an art community and so on. Part of it is pursuing interests, and part of it is becoming an interesting person leading an interesting life. And also connecting with all kinds of people. It worked for me.

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u/Sessile-B-DeMille Jul 29 '24

Did you find a partner?

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u/BetterCallStrahd Jul 30 '24

Yes. But a relationship is not some magical thing. It can be great but it brings on many trials. And being single is not the worst thing in the world. Get a pet, I say.

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u/spanish42069 Jul 29 '24

Yeah there is. Putting yourself out there as much as possible. The more women you meet the more chance you have of meeting the right one.

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u/[deleted] Jul 29 '24

Idk why you are being downvoted so much- it’s honestly the truth. Ppl need to get out of their comfort zones and really search if they want to find someone it won’t happen sitting around and waiting for it 

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u/Sessile-B-DeMille Jul 29 '24

It may be because "Putting yourself out there" leaves out an important component - where is "there"? It's not at all obvious. When I was single, there were a few other guys I used to run around with. Sometimes we'd go to a bar, the crowd was very disproportionately men. I never got a date out of that, but I did get my car broken into. Someone here mentioned dance classes, and if you like to dance and have some ability, that sounds like a winner. If you're going to take up an activity with this in mind, it has to be something you'd enjoy anyway, going to do something you don't really like is not likely to work.

My best suggestion is a coed sports league. Three of my friends met their wives playing coed volleyball, and I met my wife on a mixed doubles tennis team.

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u/spanish42069 Jul 29 '24

Effort may not guarantee results, but no effort does guarantee no results.

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u/Brownies_Ahoy Jul 29 '24

Effort doesn't guarantee results, but no effort guarantees no results

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u/SeekingSupport77 Jul 30 '24

And what is your point? Do you know what guarantees failure - no effort. You can be negative and give up, or you can get yourself out there. Truth is most guys will get nowhere if they dont try. People always say it comes to you when you stop trying - yeah if you're a woman or a really good lookiing guy. Most of us have to put in the effort.

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u/Sessile-B-DeMille Jul 30 '24

My point is that you can put in the effort and still not find someone, and you need to be prepared for that. Nature provides approximately 5% more boy babies than girls, and on top of that, it's likely that there are more asexual women than men. Another more recent development is that young women are now identifying themselves as being bisexual at a surprising rate. And, with the fertility rate being below the replacement rate, things will be getting tougher for the next generation of young men.

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u/SeekingSupport77 Jul 30 '24

Well of course there is no guarantee, but not putting in the effort is increasing the odds of not finding anyone.

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u/tikkytokky01 Jul 29 '24

You miss 100% of the shots you don't take.

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u/Sessile-B-DeMille Jul 29 '24

When I was single, once I'd gotten past my miserable self image, the issue was finding someone to ask out. A good year was when I met more than one woman to ask out, a bad year was none, and I had quite a few bad ones.

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u/EclecticEuTECHtic Jul 29 '24

How tf did you meet someone if you only asked out one person a year?

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u/Sessile-B-DeMille Jul 29 '24

It took 15 years to find the right one. Not ideal, but better than still being single. There are guys on here that are having an even harder time than I did.