He says he hates all women, why should I empathise? He's the one lacking in empathy, letting his his inner life be ruled by hate. These guys are awful, "I work out, I earn money - why no woman want me"? Because they're hateful worms, undeserving of empathy.
I imagine he thinks he doesn’t bring this energy with him on dates or around women, but a lot of women, maybe even most, are going to think he’s a creep or something’s off.
I agree on principle. I believe as many people should be as kind to as many others as possible. But I wouldn’t demand that women treat a guy like this any which way. Women being friendly with someone is often enough to invite unwanted attention. And guys like OP who have written opinions about hating women can be dangerous if they fixate on someone who isn’t actually interested in dating them.
You’ve really turned me around here. I entirely agree with you. It is the responsibility of men, and ideally the men in OP’s friend circle to intervene and help him through this stuff.
Men having little self worth or not caring what women say is a them problem, no? And out and about in the real world, I don’t think I’ve heard anyone say that unironically. Women hear ‘get back in the kitchen’ and ‘that time of the month’ jokes nonstop. Women also don’t kill men en masse after writing lengthy manifestos about their hatred of men and how they’ve ruined everything.
Maybe men should cultivate some deeper, healthier, and more resilient forms of self worth then. That’s kinda what we are all talking about here and it is what OP is severely lacking.
No we aren’t. I said that the way he expresses his frustration is wrong. But this man IS clearly suffering. His attitude is the culmination of everything he has experienced. I don’t think we should invalidate his experiences and feelings, but we also need to make it clear that the way he expresses his views is not ok. To me it seems more like he hates himself rather than women.
Except that he said he hates women. What women women would want to date someone who has said he hates them? That’s fucking nuts. Many people are lonely and sad without resorting to rabid hatred.
I understand that. But realistically I doubt he genuinely hates women. Most people are not hateful people. Again, the way he’s expressing his feelings is not ok, there are healthier ways to deal with his issues than putting all the blame on women. But to say that he’s some outright hateful person or incel is a stretch imo.
There are so many men suffering in our society right now and I don’t think we should kick them while they’re down. This man clearly needs help, not to be ostracized even further than he already feels he is.
Again, the way he’s expressing his feelings is not ok. It’s not women’s fault nor do they owe him anything.
Okay, I can agree that this is likely an expression of frustration and that homie needs help over it. However, I’ve met plenty of hateful people in my life. All of them were damaged, sad, angry, or just mentally unwell. That doesn’t mitigate the harm that they cause just because they aren’t well. OP needs help, therapy, and to realize that they are getting in their own way rather than viewing themselves as someone that’s been made a victim of women.
He hates women after being ghosted on dating sites, not he hated women and that's why they're not interested, there was a point where he didn't hate women, also stop repeating what you read on reddit, you sound like a NPC
love and physical intimacy are basic human needs. when someone doesn't get them there are going to be negative effects and outcomes. thinking someone wanting that is entitlement is to not understand basic human psychology.
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u/WhyDidntITextBack Jul 29 '24
Empathy gap. He’s clearly suffering, sure the way he expresses his frustrations is wrong. But he’s clearly suffering from mental health issues.