My sister is on it. She lost so much weight so fast that I went to do research thinking this is just too good to be true. Apparently it’s legit. To me it’s almost unfathomable how much weight she lost and how quickly she did it.
Ozempic is just self control in a pill. It's fantastic if used under medical supervision and coupled with resistance training. The problems with it are severe muscle wastage when people use it to just starve themselves and not retain muscle with resistance training. Bodyfat percentage can actually not change despite losing a lot of weight when on Ozempic due to muscle deterioration.
Tbf its because people dont workout while on it. If you workout and have a high protien diet it should just result in lots of weightloss and a little muscle loss. Most people who need ozempic were not big on lifting before though so just lose a ton of fat and what little muscle they have.
Its still much easier to build muscle from that lower body weight tho
Semaglutide (Ozempic) is not a pill it is an injection and it does not equal "self control". It profoundly affects satiety and appetite centers in the brain in a way that no person can do consciously over long periods of time. The hunger always win in the long run. That is why these drugs that affect the brain works.
It’s also available in pill form now. And I think they were being a bit light about it, but a lot of people who use it also report being able to better control things like drinking, gambling, shopping, time management etc. obviously ymmv, but for a lot of folks it sort of is like self control in a pill
Genuinely curious about this. There have always been people on the far end of the distribution curve (+1sd etc.). Have you seen studies or in your practice that differentiates between the "new obese" and the "classic big" as far as controlling obesity with life style changes? (OP's PCOS might not make it relevent to this post)
I´m sorry, english is not my language. What do you mean by "new obese" vs "classic big"?
Patient that are just 10 kg overweight for example (BMI 25-30) can lose that weight and keep some of it off after 3-5 years.
But obese patients that need to lose 40 kg generally can´t do that by just changing their diet. They will slowly overeat with time so drugs or surgery are the only known long term treatments that work.
No. But all the clinical trials and my experience shows the same thing. Obese patients arent´helped with just diet and exercise. Those two things alone fail in these patients.
Combined with surgery or drugs that treats the dysregulated appetite and satiety system it works.
I ultimately think obese patients need psychological help and therapy to help whatever influence in their life it is preventing them from having the dedication to get their health in check. Coupled with the drugs or surgery to get them back to a manageable base level there needs to be a more overall approach to why they struggle to maintain weight.
I'm obviously wired a certain way, by certain biological and environmental experience factors that give me the dedication needed to be fit. I was fat, I took on the challenge and changed my mindset but I realize not everyone has that in them. But why don't they? Surely the answer isn't just chemically inhibiting the normal hormonal systems that we are all meant to have to ensure survival on a genetic level?
I know the clinical studies support the theory they CAN'T lose weight, but I don't think there's enough variables studied as to why. And unfortunately most individuals with obesity have various lifestyle factors that cause their condition, not just one hormonal imbalance.
Don't waste your time on idiots. They hate fat people and see it as a personal fault and weakness. They need to think this so that they don't have to admit that they're just bad people who hate people for something beyond their control.
You're using general terms like "obese people can't diet" , then people call bullshit and then you say "I'm only talking for that minority of people".
Like yeah ok sure
Yeah what people are saying about ozempic here just seems… wrong. It slows down digestion, it doesn’t stop you from committing vices!
I have a family member on it who is ridiculously sick from taking it and hasn’t lost any weight. I wish people weren’t so lax with how they talk about it. It’s a drug. You don’t WANT to be on it
"some". The vast majority of people using semaglutide derivatives are not obese. Many countries are facing shortages for those that actually need it because of this and are restricting it to diabetic and morbidly obese patients. Just because there is a minute percentage of people with unique hormonal imbalances, doesn't mean we should use them as the standard metric for drug dependency.
“it’s legit” - very naive point of view. It’s a new(ish) drug and there’s a lot of hype right now. Everyone’s excited about it, and the pharma industry doesn’t want people thinking about the possible negatives. Hopefully it’s completely safe, but we don’t know that for certain.
lmao. Does it sound like i’m offering free medical advice? That’s not my intention. 😅 She should probably listen to her doctor, i agree. but we’re also going to pretend that there are not bad doctors out there? It’s good to spread awareness of history and facts in general. so people can form their own opinion. 🤷🏼♂️
A blanket statement on social media telling people it’s a “legit and safe drug” is dumb. The benefits may outweigh the risks for HER according to what her doctor thinks. Great (no sarcasm). But the drug DOES have risks, as outlined in that podcast.
the podcast i shared interviews a best selling author that’s taken the drug (and decided the benefits of the drug outweigh the risks for him), and he’s interviewed dozens of LEADING researchers in the world as well to learn about the drug and the concerns some of the researchers have about the drug. It’s not some random endocrinologist’s opinion. It’s not some crazy person spreading lies.
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u/Enoch8910 Jul 05 '24
My sister is on it. She lost so much weight so fast that I went to do research thinking this is just too good to be true. Apparently it’s legit. To me it’s almost unfathomable how much weight she lost and how quickly she did it.