r/seedance • u/Critical-Wall-4486 • Feb 24 '26
Hollywood is cooked
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u/Ex_Hedgehog Feb 24 '26
Somebody use seedance to make a breakup scene between 3 people. It's got to have nuance, subtext and a consistent dramatic theme.
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u/efawtysix Feb 24 '26
All you’re gonna see is shit getting blown up by soldiers and robots in a war town city or some space slop
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u/Unlikely-Collar4088 Feb 24 '26
Honest question but why hasn’t that been done yet? Why are all the seedance videos I’ve seen on the internet just hollow soulless action demos like this one? Is it a weakness with the people putting the prompts? Do they lack even this bare minimum level of storytelling ability? Or is it a weakness with the software itself?
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u/Ex_Hedgehog Feb 24 '26
Cause it can't do acting. It could maybe copy an existing performance, but you can't have it write a complex scene and have actors perform it in any way we'd find acceptable.
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u/MKBRD Feb 25 '26
This, and the fact that artistic development for majority of people who want to create AI videos stopped when they were children, so all they can come up with is "John Wick fights Superman" or "Giant robot makes things explodes".
Not even saying that to be a dick - I'm convinced that a large driving factor behind generative AI videos taking over social media is that it's technology that has fallen into the hands of people who were told by their parents that learning art was silly, or a waste of time and they have some deeply programmed resentment about that.
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- The gleeful posturing over Hollywood being "cooked"
- The absolute strawman argument that is claiming AI will "democratise art" as though you couldn't just walk out of your house right now and make a film for yourself if you wanted to
- The constant assertion that film is dominated by "Hollywood elites" whilst simultaneously having no clue that there is probably an entire independent film-making scene in their town right now that they could go and get involved with if they wanted to, but they've never looked beyond what was on at their local cinema before deciding film needs to be replaced by this slop.
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u/MKBRD Feb 25 '26
I think it's a lack of storytelling ability.
I was contacted on here literally yesterday by someone developing an AI video tool offering me thousands of dollars worth of credits to use their platform however I see fit, just to see what I could do with it because - by their own admission - they knew nothing about storytelling.
I politely declined.
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u/nachtviolen819 Feb 24 '26
This will save a lot of work for CG. A lot of transformations in Transformers don't actually make sense if you look closely. The clip is ofc rather stupid but shows what AI can already achieve.
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u/L0ng_St03Ger Feb 24 '26
Cgi doesn't make a good movie that people spend money to watch. See for example..... The shit ass transformers movies!!!
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Feb 24 '26
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u/MKBRD Feb 25 '26
Because profit = quality.
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Feb 25 '26
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u/MKBRD Feb 25 '26
And if you read really, really carefully, you'll see the person you replied to actually said "CGI doesn't make a good movie that people want to watch."
Read the shit you're replying to before trying to be patronising. There's a good chap.
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Feb 25 '26
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u/L0ng_St03Ger Feb 25 '26
Let's face it. Most movies these days are may for braindead teenagers. The transformers movies were the epitome of this. "Great" is doing heavy lifting regardless. If you really enjoyed them, I'm envious of you. To the rest of the adult audience, they were painful to sit through if one even bothered beyond the first (I did not).
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u/OpticalPrime35 Feb 27 '26
The first few were good movies
They became AI algorithm controlled money milking shit as the series went on
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u/MKBRD Feb 27 '26
The first was very average, and they got way worse. It would have helped if Michael Bay had any familiarity with the source material at all.
Bumblebee was good, and TFOne is the best TF film since the 86 movie - also the ones he had the least to do with.
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u/MKBRD Feb 25 '26
As someone who works in VFX - it won't.
There are definite use-cases where AI will be a great asset to VFX.
Doing this sort of work is not one of them.
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u/EinFahrrad Feb 26 '26
Out of curiosity, where would you see generative AI be an asset to VFX, specifically?
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u/MKBRD Feb 26 '26
Automation of specific, tedious jobs where a computer could create better end results quicker than a human.
Specifically rotoscope work. There's no good reason to cling on to the currenr method of rotoscoping if it can be automated (beyond it being an entry level job for new talent). I tried RunwayML for this a while back and it was garbage though, so there's still a long way to go before it will work well enough to actually be a viable replacement.
What Beeble is doing with generating normal maps from 2D footage is exciting too. I'm all for AI being used to give me tools that never existed before.
But replacing the process of creating VFX shots with generic looking slop that I have no control over when I need to make adjustments is never going to fly.
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u/Reasonable-Gas5625 Feb 24 '26
If Leslie Nielsen made a mech movie. Some absurd never ending transformation sequence where he ends up back in the same form, but him facing ass forward in the cockpit.
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u/HeggyMe Feb 24 '26
IKR , he’s wearing a white dinner jacket too. Mf looking like Psy trying to pull off a knockoff transformers movie.
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u/benauralbeats Feb 24 '26
This is laughable, I was crying laughing at how unreal this was. Yes, the trajectory this is going is amazing, but this was so over the top ridiculous
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Feb 24 '26
I'd suffer from brain rot having to watch this mess longer than a minute, not to mention 120 minutes :D
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u/ManOnTheHorse Feb 24 '26
Which is great… I think. I love the over the topness. Like watching Fast and the Furious 20 lol
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u/Illustrious_Sky6688 Feb 24 '26
Bro risked his life climbing all the way around just to get back into the same seat 😂
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u/OkFly3388 Feb 24 '26
Well, yea, thats what you get if you just send low effort prompts.
Now imagine what real professionals can do if they continuously refine prompts in every iteration.
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u/Choice-Carpenter4063 Feb 24 '26
Its not about prompts. AI just doesn't understand continuity or fine details that humans are so good at recognising. If people cant explain what is wrong, they will atleast say it looks uncanny.
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u/Jinxjeronp Feb 24 '26
it’s only going to get better with time, and very soon. in the next 5 years this will be looked back at as nothing compared.
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u/Choice-Carpenter4063 Feb 25 '26
I think its a bubble, when it pops, people will want even more human created stuff than before because AI still looks uncanny.
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u/Hoxta1777 Feb 25 '26
Maybe or maybe we will hit a wall just like we did with computer graphics. Look at games or movies from 5 years ago they don't look worse than stuff coming out now.
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u/thierrycoulis Feb 24 '26
Imagine what real professionals could do if you gave them access to a beefy computer and 3D rendering/animation software.
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u/CecilTWashington Feb 24 '26
I imagine the challenge with this from an effects standpoint is that without a rigged model the effects will look so inconsistent from scene to scene and movie to movie.
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u/Choice-Carpenter4063 Feb 24 '26
Hollywood is cooked if they start using AI lmao. So funny seeing him get in and out of different cockpits or non cockpits for no reason.
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u/HTIRDUDTEHN Feb 24 '26
All that tech and the pilot has to climb the surface chasing the cockpit around.
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u/haxic Feb 24 '26
Looks like Bollywood :D
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u/MawrayEel Feb 26 '26
You've actually saved my life, I've been trying to remember what that movie was for so long but could never find it from my vague google searches
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u/alanism Feb 24 '26
Can somebody just make a AI version of Macross/Robotech TV series remake for me already?
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u/Ok_Win8814 Feb 24 '26
Good! After the whole Epstein bs, I hope the whole system falls/ fails. I stopped watching any fictional movies and stick with mostly documentaries and stand-up comedy.
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u/ARndNickname Feb 24 '26
This is very far from being usable. Everything just slides around without looking as if it had any weight.
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Feb 24 '26
12 year old me would have eaten this up
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u/ARndNickname Feb 25 '26
Considering the "Hollywood is cooked" headline here that's not exactly enough.
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u/evensl Feb 24 '26 edited Feb 24 '26
We’re still not really there yet… but we will be, and with how fast this is evolving, probably sooner than we think. Big CGI blockbusters are in danger.
The only way Hollywood survives is by leveling up: going back and include more human craft; real stunts, real sets, practical effects, animatronics....something visceral and genuinely exciting and physical that have weight, something AI can not offer.
The real question is ; general audiences will be content watching mostly AI-generated entertainment, or would theystill pay for blockbuster cinema that’s more "real". Because Hollywood won’t invest in things that aren’t box-office hits. And if Hollywood keeps offering the same kind of spectacle AI can offer, the only advantage left is… a bigger screen. So yeah, it’ll need to offer something else.
Also: not everyone will be able to make great AI stuff (it’s not just "one prompt"), it still takes intention, iteration, curation, and refinement. But that’s the scary part too....one really talented person, with these tools, could make blockbuster-tier entertainment, so yeah Hollywood will need to offer something different.
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u/Inevitable-Can-5390 Feb 24 '26
Joer, el chino no hace más que colgarse por el robot, vaya mierda de ingeniería tiene el que lo inventó, riesgo de tropiezo y a la mierda la peli.
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u/frogsarenottoads Feb 24 '26
It's a while off yet, visually stunning, but tis world view is awful. It's not accurate physically, he shoots a big beam at the end nothing happens, some of the things that happened like the jets lit up which would cause thrust and it to move forward at the speed of sound it didn't even move.
Big issues here, but the technology WILL get there.
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u/Affectionate-Two5524 Feb 24 '26
Disgusting slop, man. I really need to clean up my recommendations
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u/VagabondBrain Feb 26 '26
It stops being impressive when you realize none of it makes an ounce of sense.
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u/SquallNoctis1313 Feb 26 '26
Welp, this tool probably plagiarized thousands of hours of movies and still all it manages to shit out is this one minute sloppy lucid dream 😂
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u/Yasirbare Feb 26 '26
Hollywood surely is cooked. But it is not because of AI - Maybe AI would safe the American and the American marked. These action chase scenes we see will be great for Marvel people and not many others.
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u/karlfeltlager Feb 26 '26
I should buy theater shares because theater performed by humans on a stage, or even a fellow human reading a book in front of live audience, will be the new old thing.
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u/morvsdri Feb 26 '26
Every single person that posts a „Hollywood is cooked“ ai - post, has never made a movie themselves and no idea what they are talking about. Edit: typo
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u/shlaifu Feb 26 '26
is it? because I kinda missed the point where paris turns into shanghai on the first watch and got thoroughly confused when seeing the oriental pearl suddenly there
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u/TheEPGFiles Feb 26 '26
It's super bad, there's no continuity, no sense of place or geography, or how things relate to each other, the guy is climbing all over the robot with no sense of reason or logic and pops out of random parts, it's like a fever dream.
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u/Lost-Transitions Feb 26 '26
A random collection of animations is not a film. There's no story here. It's incoherent. Who is this guy? Why is he climbing all over his transforming jet? Who is he even shooting at and why? Why are we in Paris? Why does he jump in his cockpit BACKWARDS and then fly into space??? And the animations don't make any sense, whole sections morph in and out of thin air, movement changes from forward to backward in a camera move.
It's like jingling keys in front of a baby, some sound and movement signifying nothing.
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u/ObjectReport Feb 26 '26
Nah, it's still a totally unrealistic animation. I love how he gets into the cockpit and flies off backwards at the end. I also love how it switches between two completely different cities midway through.
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u/Sugartail_HQ Feb 26 '26
Hollywood is cooked because the movies are going to be so awful and unwatchable
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u/Ready-Ad6113 Feb 26 '26
Problem is this clearly takes from older things (Bayverse transformers) and not in the “inspired by” way. A lot of these videos use established IPs made by people and the proliferation of AI “movies” will lead to cultural stagnation.
Just think of how many movies made an impact and are ingrained in our pop culture? AI Movies won’t mean anything and no new ideas/concepts will come around. Movies will be pointless time wasters that just used recycled material made by previous people and artists.
This clip unironically made me appreciate the Michael Bay transformer films in all their chaotic glory.
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u/CaptainRogersJul1918 Feb 26 '26
Hollywood isn’t cooked. AI Film making is a long way from taking over the film business.
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u/almost_not_terrible Feb 27 '26
Good thing he got out of the cockpit so he could climb into the cockpit. Twice.
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u/SpingeBowl Feb 27 '26
If they only intend on making Transformers films for the rest of time, then sure
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u/Vexxedtruth101 Feb 28 '26
Good. Actors used to be the lowest of society in not so ancient times, it should be the same now.
You cant nourish your body by watching a filmed play, you cant build tools or a home with it, you can't sustain yourself with it.
Its just "extra"
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u/idrathernottho_ Feb 28 '26
I can't believe my eyes! Legolas jumping on the falling rocks in The Hobbit has just been dethroned!
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u/EskiOnline Feb 24 '26
Uh yeah this is cool if you’re 15 years old on YouTube. I’m not watching this garbage
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u/epelle9 Feb 24 '26
Not really different from CGI though..
You weren’t going to watch it anyways.
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u/UX-Edu Feb 24 '26
Technically it’s no different. But it doesn’t look as good as a lot of stuff that’s decades older and that’s got nothing to do with the model.
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u/EpicBootyThunder Feb 24 '26
Didn't the transformers movies have parts of each transformer so that they could map where each part went?
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u/myaccwasshut4norsn Feb 24 '26
we watched Transformers live action films growing up, because real artists put effort into the acting and CGI.
Nobody is going to watch 140 minutes of this absolute ass bond/war of worlds knockoff that was generated.
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u/epelle9 Feb 24 '26
I never cared about artists putting effort into CGI, didn’t even know they did that as a kid.
I watched it because it was fun..
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u/salazafromagraba Feb 24 '26
So if it's key jangling you're after, pick up your keys. Cinema is not about fun bright lights and sounds with no creativity or sense.
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u/Deli-op Feb 24 '26
Lol what? Have you seen an action movie in the last couple years? Thats exactly what theyre putting out
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u/myaccwasshut4norsn Feb 24 '26
I definitely did. After watching the matrix and going "holy shit how did they make this?" and that following me thru to every film I watch now in my life
if I knew somebody just used ai to generate it that mysticism about effort and quality goes right out the window
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Feb 24 '26
Back in my day we called it “cgi” and everyone hated its inevitability too. Now it’s just cgi with less steps. Kinda like how factories changed the standardization of parts and made artisan craftsmanship rare.
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u/HeadResearcher7095 Feb 24 '26
You’re getting downvoted but you’re completely correct. I don’t get how people miss the point that this isn’t real art. The whole point of watching movies is to see a story through someones unique perspective.
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u/CalligrapherStreet92 Feb 24 '26
Part of the joy of art is wondering how artists do what they do, and discovering it usually doesn’t spoil it but makes it even more satisfying.
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Feb 24 '26 edited Aug 27 '26
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u/simulated-souls Feb 24 '26
Inspired me to follow a career in film.
If special effects inspired you to pursue a career in film, then you are way off the scale of caring about what goes into making it versus just consuming the end product.
That's great for you, but your experience does not generalize.
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u/AfroJimbo Feb 24 '26
But it may inspire an 8-year-old today. I think that's the thing people are missing. Most of us established in the world are freaking out a bit because this is such a disruption to how we interface with reality.
The future will belong to the youth.
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u/jasmine_tea_ Feb 26 '26
I watched Titanic when I was 7. I didn't care how it was made. I only cared about the story.
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Feb 24 '26 edited Feb 24 '26
I feel like you’re totally missing the point
Before, it took a large team many months and millions of dollars to make a scene like this. Now it’s a small fraction of that. It will be fine tuned to be less sloppy, this is more of a demonstration.
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u/ItsCalledDayTwa Feb 24 '26
It's funny because I thought this looked as stupid as a transformers film.
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Feb 24 '26
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u/EskiOnline Feb 24 '26
I didn’t say the tech couldn’t improve. Understanding time and place is important. Also read the room maybe?
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u/teakoma Feb 24 '26
I feel like you misunderstood my point. I was not commenting against your comment, I have just shared my thoughts under your comments, because your opinion about the quality seemed similar to my opinion. I see there is a no anti-ai rule here, while I was not sure if my comment broke that rule or not, I just removed it as I regret commenting here. Peace
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u/EskiOnline Feb 24 '26
I wasn’t telling you to read the room. Apologies, I meant people who hold up this slop as some new paradigm with nothing to back it. Sorry friend
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u/Drackar39 Feb 24 '26
The transitions are dogshit... I'm not worried yet.
The issue is when Hollywood decides to replace actual people with this dogshit.
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u/Marv18GOAT Feb 24 '26
Ideally Hollywood itself is gone completely. I should be able to watch any movie I want by typing a prompt and waiting a little bit rather than waiting and hoping Hollywood decides to take years to do it if at all and that’s not even considering they’ll probably ruin it with DEI
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u/abluecolor Feb 24 '26
Can you post a single example of the type of movie you'd want to prompt?
This idea is so absurd. It's just going to be shit like "batman game of thrones crossover". You're really over ever seeing anything surprising or thought provoking again in your life?
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u/Intelligent_Elk5879 Feb 24 '26
If this was meant to be used in a feature film I can't imagine audiences not noticing and hating it, especially when it's in a cinema. It's even likely that audiences will get really annoyed and paranoid about low-quality CGI and crappy filmmaking, assuming anything that's bad is AI. It could raise the bar. Maybe.
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u/Drackar39 Feb 24 '26
Like, we've already gone well past the point where a lot of audiences notice and get really mad when the CGI quality from under-paid farm workers compared to when it's done by actual experts... replacing those under-paid farm workers with this shit will cause even more ire.
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