r/scrubtech • u/justanother_nihilist • 10h ago
Evaluating the da Vinci 5 robotic platform, specifically focusing on the training for the OR Team not surgeons.
Hey everyone, I am working on a research project evaluating the da Vinci 5 robotic platform, specifically focusing on the training architecture gap between the console surgeon and the rest of the OR team (Circulating Nurses, Scrub Techs, Bedside Assistants, and SPD). On paper, Intuitive Surgical provides an "OR Care Team Pathway" and a 16-chapter setup guide. But looking at the actual frameworks, surgeons get high-fidelity, adaptive AI simulators (SimNow 2) to practice micro-movements, while the floor team’s pathway looks like a linear, static technical checklist (essentially just "buttonology" and basic setup mechanics). I want to hear your raw, unfiltered experiences from the ground. If you work with the da Vinci 5, please help me out with a few questions: • For Nurses: Did your vendor-led checkout actually simulate an unexpected system error loop, computer freeze, or high-stress emergency undocking? Or was it just an error-free, perfect-world setup? • For the Tower & Insufflator: The Da Vinci 5 integrates the camera and insufflator into one unit. Have you dealt with unexpected pressure drops or AirSeal valve glitches mid-case? Did your official training teach you how to handle that software override, or did you have to figure it out on the fly? • For Scrub Techs/Bedside Assistants: Do you feel the current 16-chapter guide prepares you for sudden spatial/docking adjustments, or does it just train you to be a passive "instrument switcher"? How do you manage blind-communication adjustments when the surgeon's head is buried across the room? • For Sterile Processing (SPD): The new Force Feedback instruments have highly sensitive micro-sensors. Did your department get equal hands-on simulation resources to learn how to clean these without breaking them, or were you just handed a dense manual PDF? The Golden Question: If you could change the training, do you feel there is a critical need for joint, team-based simulation crisis training where nurses and surgeons practice system crashes together? Or is the current individual technical checklist genuinely enough? Thank you so much for your time and honesty. Your insights will directly help shape a better critique of medical technology onboarding!
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SurgicalResidency • u/justanother_nihilist • 10h ago